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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 73046@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73046: 29.4; Emacs 100% CPU usage for several seconds when opening dired buffer over TRAMP
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2024 09:29:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttesyo1t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6asl3hl.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Suhail Singh on Fri, 06 Sep 2024 20:19:34 -0400)

> From: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
> Cc: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>,  michael.albinus@gmx.de,
>   73046@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 20:19:34 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > It needs to show around 40KB to explain 10 sec of delay.
> 
> I don't understand your reasoning.

It's simple arithmetics: if fetching a 20KB file takes 4 to 5 sec,
then the 10-sec delay you reported for Dired should mean we are
fetching about 40KB of data.

> In fact if the output of ls -al was indeed around 40kb I would have
> been very surprised.

In my home directory I get:

 $ ls -al ~ | wc
     708    6371   43324

So a large enough (but not outlandishly large: just 700 files)
directory can indeed mean Emacs needs to fetch 40KB of data for
refreshing a Dired buffer.  Which led me to believe this is not an
impossible situation.

> The time taken for transferring the 20KB file included initial
> connection costs whereas TRAMP would presumably be reusing the same
> connection, but would be sending multiple small requests.

This just makes my argument stronger: it would mean that even 40KB
data moved for Dired would not quite explain the 10-sec delay.

> I did some further investigation; summarizing findings below:
> 
> A. On Host-A, the network connection is fairly slow s.t. transferring a
>    20KB file takes ~5s.  On Host-B, the network connection is fairly
>    fast.
> 
> B. On Host-A, the time taken to refresh dired buffer containing 22
>    Subdirectories (/tmp/test/src as in above code snippet) is 0.70-0.75s
>    with font-lock enabled, and about the same with font-lock disabled.
>    These times exclude the time taken to establish the intiial
>    connection over TRAMP.
> 
> C. On Host-A, the time taken to refresh dired buffer containing 22
>    symlinks (each symlink pointing to a directory, i.e., /tmp/test/links
>    in the above code snippet) is 0.70-0.75s with font-lock disabled.
>    With font-lock enabled the time taken is ~13-14s and the CPU is at
>    100%.  These times exclude the time taken to establish the intiial
>    connection over TRAMP.
> 
> D. On Host-B, the time taken to display dired buffer for /tmp/test/links
>    with font-lock enabled is ~2s greater than when font-lock is
>    disabled.  When /tmp/test/links contains 100 symlinks to directories
>    (instead of 22), the time taken when font-lock is enabled is ~6s
>    greater than when font-lock is disabled.
> 
> Given above, I conclude:
> 
> 1. The issue is present when there are symlinks to directories.
> 
> 2. The issue is worse when there are greater number of symlinks to
>    directories.
> 
> 2. The issue is worse when the connection is slower.  However, it is
>    still observable when the connection is faster - if you're having
>    difficulty reproducing, increase the number of symlinks to
>    directories in /tmp/test/links above.
> 
> 3. Given that when connection is slower, not only is the time taken for
>    font-locking greater, but the CPU is at 100%, I suspect that the
>    relevant code is doing some kind of busy-waiting.

Thanks you.  So the problem seems to be symlinks, and specifically
symlinks to directories.  Michael, what does Tramp do specially in
these cases that could explain the slowdown?

> The above observations seem consistent with Michael's comments above
> regd. font-lock checks for "Broken Symbolink link" and "Symbolic link to
> a directory".

Michael, what do these checks entail, and why are they so
CPU-expensive and take a lot of time with slow connections?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-07  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 14:24 bug#73046: 29.4; Emacs 100% CPU usage for several seconds when opening dired buffer over TRAMP Suhail Singh
2024-09-05 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 21:04   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-06  5:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-06 13:23       ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-06 13:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-06 14:09           ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-06 16:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-06 17:47               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-06 19:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07  0:19                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-07  1:39                     ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-07  6:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-09-07  8:07                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-07 14:36                       ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-07 15:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 17:35                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-08 11:30                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-08 11:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-08 15:26                                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-08 15:41                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-08 16:46                                     ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-08 17:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-10  8:10                                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-11  1:05                                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-11 11:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-11 16:29                                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-11 16:38                                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-11 17:25                                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-12 11:48                                                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-11 14:13                                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-11 15:56                                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-13 23:17                                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-14  6:24                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 14:25                                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-14 14:41                                             ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-14 15:03                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 22:36                                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-15  5:55                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 14:23                                                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-20  9:54                                               ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-20 10:47                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 14:18                                                 ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-20 15:35                                                   ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-20 15:42                                                     ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21  8:30                                                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-21 14:06                                                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-14  7:07                                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-14 14:39                                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-20  8:48                                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-11 14:06                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-07 14:22                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-07 17:58                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-08 11:26                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-08 15:09                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-08 15:19                             ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-08 15:34                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-08 16:35                                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-11 16:19                                   ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-06 16:56             ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-06 16:01         ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-06 15:46       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-06 15:52       ` Suhail Singh
     [not found] <87v7yz1sw8.fsf@rutgers.edu>
2024-09-13 15:47 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-20 16:05   ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-20 17:11     ` Jake Nelson via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-21  6:59       ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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