From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#72808: 30.0.90; editorconfig doesn't set tab_width to a default value Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 12:07:43 +0300 Message-ID: <86tte94bog.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87seusbbd9.fsf@cassou.me> <86h6arzzwv.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3992"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: damien@cassou.me, 72808@debbugs.gnu.org, jaygkamat@gmail.com, 8.slashes@gmail.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 21 11:09:01 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6u-0000n4-S7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 11:09:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6e-00069z-3C; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:08:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6d-00069o-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:08:43 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6c-0005oZ-MD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:08:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:To:Subject; bh=sgqmMzMCUyo+/+uo5WipyusnZ8b8CQ0irWX3GbMKOyI=; b=bfaVFmfLhAfhDaa6CZFxFJgn1+L+Pupzj1BeCtLQlIeMZW3kWmBvPWnGrlscVgtSPVVVZNviI7x6OgHTSMZDYjpiHF+ltGA+4Bx4OQv8b0PbDzerQdXJzk21TnGwOARTN6Jrfs+Dev+4UfwvzWvB1MIDQHcWzeLEBA+uDfYBML3iJXpqY24osbeFc4GnHQ8y60RpXOV8JWdGJKCALDTQnK6HBpSX+S8UripW43kmbfpGc6CJH/GrWZPYrh/Ke+v6R6qrZ5K4xxFU7Qt0sHIfOk3+gTLf9saVfRHeBGj/BxyiVZxWqnUckgsx4FXD6MBr8qeW3DqcHnn1SZX41+JOSA==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6w-0001cG-Jm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72808 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 72808-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72808.17269096986142 (code B ref 72808); Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 72808) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2024 09:08:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6E-0001ay-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srw6C-0001ae-1a; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srw5i-0005md-Sg; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 05:07:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sgqmMzMCUyo+/+uo5WipyusnZ8b8CQ0irWX3GbMKOyI=; b=FJp1gDGGF/5s 22/ZuYyxIoE5/ZS2Q79VtM9qSI8A7vYRJYUtN+ieqSZLPE7lPbIA50DQZzeO12+Wa64X4nUQtY5tI pFGg3Zsw3Qdbi2/00qyPdb/Qrbe2CF3bK86LLlpWBVSwtSxGxwBYYFhjuUOYKpQ+RIsiXQDni6ZO0 SA68kv3wOdRi+4LcnHY2sDJHSYUv8LZR7PLdgixMcOWka8z7fZZ8BGTTPFDii7Oj86/eDGL2845KA Ml8BSX1ny8Gns8ZcWMfhM5IVEj6LD+MBN0/iCP8lfqoy0rKRy3H8378ExQzIvOq1O8FhbYMPUeI9b 9wS+qN5yNiLecCXD2lHb3g==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 08 Sep 2024 07:25:17 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:292156 Archived-At: tags 72808 wontfix close 72808 thanks > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Damien Cassou , 72808@debbugs.gnu.org, > jaygkamat@gmail.com, 8.slashes@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2024 07:25:17 -0400 > > >> The problem is that the .editorconfig file can be shared across users of > >> different editors for a given project. Emacs disagreeing with the > >> standard means that Emacs users will now have to explain to their > >> colleagues why they are introducing a change in a .editorconfig file > >> that the standard says is unnecessary. This is putting me, at least, in > >> an uncomfortable position with non-Emacs users in my team. Additionally, > >> if other editors disagree with the standard for other reasons, we may > >> quickly reach a situation where no content of .editorconfig will suit > >> everyone. > > Stefan, any further comments, or should we close this as wontfix? > > I think Damien's argument makes a lot of sense. > I think mine makes sense as well. > I can't really judge which one will work out more often right, but as > the writer of the code I decided to try out my choice. > > But I don't have a really strong opinion about it (I do have a strong > opinion that the EditorConfig standard's choice is wrong, but not > whether we should follow it or not): if you think Damien's preference is > better for Emacs, I'm fine to make the change. > > Otherwise, I suggest we leave it like that for Emacs-30 and see how > things turn out. I'm okay with closing this as wontfix. Let's see if we have more complaints like this.