From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to improve the pager Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 01:12:33 +0100 Message-ID: <86sm7ndedq.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099704589 22623 80.91.229.6 (6 Nov 2004 01:29:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 01:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 06 02:29:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQFOj-00005N-00 for ; Sat, 06 Nov 2004 02:29:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQFWx-000415-9l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:38:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQFVE-0002R9-3c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:36:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQFVB-0002Pe-Rh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:36:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQFVA-0002P7-W3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:36:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CQFMK-0008VE-4K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:27:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=main.gmane.org) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CQDK9-0005Rg-OO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:16:53 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQDGM-0007ff-00 for ; Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:12:58 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9e1ee6d.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.225.238.109]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:12:58 +0100 Original-Received: from kai by pd9e1ee6d.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:12:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9e1ee6d.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GeBw0FyZ1jbHDPCl3An81uGG7eM= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:21775 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:21775 projorpheon ccf writes: > Thank you very much, Kai Grossjohann. > >>There is the variable scroll-preserve-screen-position in Emacs 21. > The scroll-preserve-screen-position only effects on the > scroll-up/scroll-down but > not the page-up/page-down which use the forward-line. What are page-up/page-down? I have keys labeled like this on the keyboard, and Page Down does like C-v whereas Page Up does like M-v. All four keys preserve the screen position. >>And there is scroll-in-place.el by Eric Eide. > This one looks complicated and seems to be outdated. It might exactly > do the same thing as the scroll-preserve-screen-position. what do you think > about it? It does not do the same thing as scroll-preserve-screen-position. It is very old, but that does not mean it is bad. Yes, it is complicated, because it does a lot of stuff. Luckily, I think you can get it to do simple things fairly easily. Kai