From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: carbon build hangs on startup Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:52:19 -0700 Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA Message-ID: <86sl4hvh3w.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <200710062009.l96K9uNb021892@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <864ph32cds.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <86ir5i1fgu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <306B6695-B4CF-4C9B-8979-2CBD3240BBE8@bobobeach.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1192117796 25678 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2007 15:49:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 11 17:49:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ig0IK-0007Op-Dc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:49:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig0IE-0007om-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig0HV-0007Ok-Kg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig0HU-0007NQ-3L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig0HT-0007NK-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:48:59 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ig0HT-0002sG-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:48:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig03J-0006Oc-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:34:21 +0000 Original-Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([209.223.236.162]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:34:21 +0000 Original-Received: from merlyn by blue.stonehenge.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:34:21 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blue.stonehenge.com x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.14.13.2; tzolkin = 4 Ik; haab = 10 Yax User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Gr06nfXTHM7UZ0F4GNg9jlc4WWE= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80628 Archived-At: >>>>> "YAMAMOTO" == YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: YAMAMOTO> I don't understand why people, especially those who don't do the YAMAMOTO> actual development, are in a hurry. I don't understand why you don't understand. :) >From a practical perspective, I'm quite happy to continue to use the carbon-compatible 21.1 port. But I'm also interested in continuing to be a "canary in the mine" to ensure that newer releases of GNU Emacs continue to run on my platform of choice. I've temporarily suspended that activity, until there's something for me to download and run. Also, newer releases have new cool features, so I want to be able to not be left behind. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!