From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Wells Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: which bug messages should be sent where? (was: Scrolling occasionally stops in *compilation*) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:14:04 +0100 Message-ID: <86skvjeqdf.fsf_-_@macs.hw.ac.uk> References: <86prqofey8.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213211811 13738 80.91.229.12 (11 Jun 2008 19:16:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 11 21:17:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K6Vp0-0008Bo-8X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:17:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41990 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6VoC-0007Dt-Kk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6Vo8-0007BX-2n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6Vo7-0007Ar-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44684 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6Vo6-00079G-Az; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-r.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.101.217]:36969) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Vo1-0006co-AR; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from izanami.macs.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.13.6]) by mail-r.hw.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1K6Vlc-0002Jy-4z; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:14:32 +0100 Original-Received: from lxultra1.macs.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.27.173]:51030 helo=127.0.0.1) by izanami.macs.hw.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1K6Vlb-0001W4-JX; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:13:55 +0100 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 17955 invoked by uid 1001); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:14:04 -0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed\, 11 Jun 2008 13\:45\:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-HW-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the HW Helpdesk for more information X-HW-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HW-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.399, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-HW-MailScanner-From: jbw@macs.hw.ac.uk X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98974 gmane.emacs.bugs:18337 Archived-At: [ I am removing =E2=80=9Cbug#21=E2=80=9D from the subject because it seems = this triggers the bug tracker to add the message to the log for this bug in the bug tracker. Can someone please post a description of the complete interface? ] Richard M Stallman writes: > Any e-mail sent to XYZ@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (where XYZ is the > bug number) will be CC-ed to bug-gnu-emacs automatically. This is > what Stefan did. > > That is a pain in the neck for everyone on bug-gnu-emacs. > It should be cc'd to emacs-bug-tracker instead. > > It is good that e-mail sent to XYZ@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com is CC-ed > to bug-gnu-emacs automatically. Simply turning this off would be bad. > > I don't see anything bad about it. > Would you like to try to substantiate that statement? The important question is: What is the purpose of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list (and the gnu.emacs.bug newsgroup which is connected to the mailing list)? It is very good that there is now a bug tracker for Emacs. However, the existence of the bug tracker means the purpose of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list needs to be reassessed. I believe the purpose of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list should now be this: The bug-gnu-emacs mailing list is (1) where people can send bug reports and (2) where people who want to help can watch for bug reports and the discussion of bug reports. > There is no simple solution, although there may be a complicated > one. > > I've stated a simple solution above. You could also solve the =E2=80=9Cproblem=E2=80=9D by unsubscribing from th= e mailing list. Your =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D would make it too difficult for people like= me to watch the discussion and contribute where we have useful knowledge to share. Your =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D could make things easier for some p= eople, but it would also make it harder for other people to help in solving bugs. I suggest that a long-term solution should be thought about more carefully. I hope this message is helpful. --=20 Joe --=20 Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity registered under charity number SC000278.