From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs user manual in Spanish Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 00:35:46 +0200 Message-ID: <86shiewjp9.fsf@zoho.com> References: <20170702082424.GA3364@workstation> <86h8yuy7v1.fsf@zoho.com> <5ac97eb4-d897-4c35-b095-e76250398400@default> <7372AEAA-347B-4936-8047-A32BFB5DF48F@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499034999 3288 195.159.176.226 (2 Jul 2017 22:36:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 22:36:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 03 00:36:35 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dRnTi-0000KP-Uq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2017 00:36:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59433 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRnTm-0006jK-OR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 18:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRnTG-0006jF-MF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 18:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRnTD-0004Ym-Jj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 18:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=44295 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dRnTD-0004Ww-CE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jul 2017 18:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dRnT3-0006uv-E4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2017 00:35:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:lS3REwy6rsZZeEctQYriOab/a+g= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113640 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > That's a very interesting idea. How hard do > you think it would be to create a wiki > version of the Emacs manual ? Technically, very easy as there is already an Emacs wiki and an Emacs manual and anyone feel free to create a page dealing with any topic discussed in the manual in whatever language you choose and start adding material. > There are plenty of translation projects that > work on an online interface and where > translators contribute just a few paragraphs, > and the quality is just sufficient to be > useful (and it can be updated by anyone > else). In some cases it is a great method to translate stuff. In other areas, such as novels where a personal and somewhat consistent style is good, I suppose it could be an OK method lacking other alternatives. In other areas, such as technology, it doesn't matter if the method is good or bad if the idea is bad. Which it is, here. Technology shouldn't be translated. If people won't come to technology, forcing it closer to people won't help - it will only create confusion, and those who want it will not be helped by it, on the contrary. Hey, why don't we translate Emacs Lisp? We can start with Swedish! `find-file' = `öppna-fil' `kill-region' = `radera-stycke' Oh, that's right. We don't do it because it is a bad idea. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573