From: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: answer from Zoho
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 04:22:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86sgsovkig.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87imtrysk8.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es
I have got another e-mail from Zoho. (BTW, how
outrageous of them to first to blame Gmail,
when what happens is they (Gmail) actually
respect their (Zoho's) own policy, then when
I point this out they insist I should change
e-mail client!?!)
We would like to confirm that if the emails
are sent from mail.zoho.com, the emails
will be delivered without any issues. Also,
if you use any email clients like Outlook,
macmail with the Zoho SMTP server settings,
there will be no issues with the email
delivery. In case, if you use such email
clients with different SMTP server
settings, the emails will be rejected
according to the DMARC policy. This is what
we tried to explain in the forum post.
Kindly try sending emails only through Zoho
Webmail or from an Authenticated SMTP
server to avoid such inconveniences.
Refer here for the server settings.
To this, I replied, again hoping I got it
right, since I'm no expert on a lot of things,
e-mail included:
Zoho Cares wrote:
+ We would like to confirm that if the emails
+ are sent from mail.zoho.com, the emails will
+ be delivered without any issues. Also, if you
+ use any email clients like Outlook, macmail
+ with the Zoho SMTP server settings
I use Emacs Gnus. The SMTP server is set to
smtp.zoho.eu with port 587 (for starttls).
+ there will be no issues with the email
+ delivery. In case, if you use such email
+ clients with different SMTP server settings,
+ the emails will be rejected according to the
+ DMARC policy.
According to the thread [1], the reason the
mails aren't delivered or end up in the spam
directory, is your own policy, which is the
mails should be rejected if resent, and this is
what happens when they are sent to a mailing
list (and possibly to a Usenet newsgroup or
gateway (e.g., NNTP with Gmane)).
Previously, Gmail, and others, have chosen to
disregard this policy setting (in general, i.e.
not just you doing it), but now they respect it
- i.e., my mails, sent from you, via the list,
gets rejected when they arrive at Gmail and
other hosts.
Consider the output of the following
commands: [2 - full source]
$ dig-zoho
"v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; fo=0;
rua=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu;
ruf=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu"
$ host-zoho
_dmarc.zoho.eu descriptive text "v=DMARC1;
p=reject; sp=reject; fo=0;
rua=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu;
ruf=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu"
[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-05/msg00473.html
[2] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/mail
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https://dataswamp.org/~incal
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2019-02-19 3:38 ` Kaushal Modi
2019-02-19 15:07 ` Scott Randby
2019-02-19 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-02-19 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-20 19:18 ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-20 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-20 23:03 ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-21 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-21 14:38 ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-21 15:03 ` Yuri Khan
2019-02-21 15:20 ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-22 0:06 ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-23 10:28 ` Nate Bass
2019-02-23 19:56 ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-23 21:05 ` Vasilii Kolobkov
2019-02-24 3:45 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-03-05 22:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-05 21:25 ` Ian Kelling
2019-03-05 22:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-06 17:14 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-06 18:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-08 1:47 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-13 1:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-13 1:47 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-13 2:53 ` [DMARC Sucks!] (Was Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) 황병희
2019-03-13 2:57 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19 0:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19 0:46 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-19 1:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19 18:02 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-19 23:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-06 17:27 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-05-23 14:44 ` Bastian Beischer
2019-05-23 14:58 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-23 23:19 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24 0:00 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:32 ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-23 23:44 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
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2019-05-25 4:40 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25 6:31 ` tomas
2019-05-25 8:03 ` the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25 11:54 ` tomas
2019-05-28 5:21 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 5:36 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 6:27 ` Yuri Khan
2019-05-28 8:29 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 8:39 ` tomas
2019-05-28 8:56 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 8:59 ` tomas
2019-05-29 19:32 ` answer from Zoho (was: Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces)) Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30 0:00 ` the future of the computer world (was Re: answer from Zoho) Van L
2019-05-30 2:50 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30 8:48 ` answer from Zoho Alberto Luaces
2019-05-30 11:39 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30 17:24 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-30 17:39 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-31 7:43 ` Alberto Luaces
2019-05-31 7:46 ` Alberto Luaces
2019-06-05 2:22 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs [this message]
2019-05-28 8:42 ` the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Yuri Khan
2019-05-25 15:18 ` the future of the computer world Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 5:22 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25 9:17 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Van L
2019-05-25 11:56 ` tomas
2019-05-27 14:14 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 12:12 ` Van L
2019-05-28 14:47 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24 9:01 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24 0:38 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-24 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 23:14 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:22 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:38 ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-23 23:46 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-02-19 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-19 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19 17:41 ` Alternative mail providers (was: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Amin Bandali
2019-02-20 10:21 ` Alternative mail providers Van L
2019-02-20 15:15 ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-20 22:11 ` [OFF-TOPIC] " Van L
2019-02-20 22:41 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-02-21 6:59 ` Van L
2019-02-21 10:07 ` gnus and gpg Van L
2019-02-21 10:33 ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-21 12:07 ` Van L
2019-02-21 12:26 ` Colin Baxter
2019-02-21 7:50 ` Alternative mail providers mickbert
2019-03-12 13:29 ` 황병희
2019-03-05 21:22 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Ian Kelling
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