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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302697 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Here are the questions I think we want to be answered to finalize the >>> implementation and effects of 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation': >>> >>> . Do people actually use 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' or >>> the corresponding environment variable? If so, for what reasons, >>> and why tweaking 'native-comp-eln-load-path' to direct the *.eln >>> files to some other place, including the temporary-file directory, >>> was not enough? >> >> I do. >> >> When running Emacs ada-mode tests, I spawn lots of Emacsen. If each one >> tries to native compile stuff, it just slows down the tests. > > Any reason you use `inhibit-automatic-native-compilation` rather than > `native-comp-deferred-compilation`? Hmm. That is the variable I'm currently using, but I thought it was deprecated. In addition, it doesn't seem to be declared: M-x describe-variable only finds native-comp-deferred-compilation-deny-list. Maybe native-comp-deferred-compilation is only declared in a let-binding somewhere? So if native-comp-deferred-compilation is fully supported in it's current form, I'm happy. -- -- Stephe