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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 18132@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 09:37:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86sf4db0wf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y1e529a2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 Dec 2023 19:48:53 +0200")

>> -   '("\\.dvi\\'" "xdvi" "dvips")	; preview and printing
>> -   '("\\.au\\'" "play")			; play Sun audiofiles
>> -   '("\\.mpe?g\\'\\|\\.avi\\'" "xine -p")
>> -   '("\\.ogg\\'" "ogg123")
>> -   '("\\.mp3\\'" "mpg123")
>> -   '("\\.wav\\'" "play")
>> -   '("\\.xbm\\'" "bitmap")		; view X11 bitmaps
>> -   '("\\.p[bgpn]m\\'" "xloadimage")
>> -   '("\\.gif\\'" "xloadimage")		; view gif pictures
>> -   '("\\.tif\\'" "xloadimage")
>> -   '("\\.png\\'" "display")		; xloadimage 4.1 doesn't grok PNG
>> -   '("\\.jpe?g\\'" "xloadimage")
>> -   '("\\.pdf\\'" "xpdf")
>
> Thanks.  However, to justify such significant changes in this
> database, we need much more details: we need to know, for each guess
> you want to disable or delete, when and on what platform(s) is or was
> it true, when and why and on what platform(s) it stopped being true,
> and what replacement(s) are available on modern platforms for those
> commands that are no longer useful guesses.

Do you really think it's possible to get a list of all popular commands
available on all platforms?

> And if the guesses you are removing are supposed to be guessed better
> by XDG, then we should do that in a way that still supports systems
> without XDG.

This is just a random list of arbitrary commands.
And the problem is that dired doesn't check with 'executable-find'
if any of them is really installed.

But OK, if you want 100% backward-compatibility,
I will refactor out this list of obsolete commands
into a separate variable used by default.
Then a new value of existing option will allow omitting it.

> We cannot make such changes based only on your personal experience on
> the system which you use, because we don't want to break other users'
> setups.  So we must have these details to make this kind of decisions.

I don't know where you get such an idea that it's based
on my personal experience.  For my use I customized
dired-guess-shell-alist-user long ago.

Instead of this I'm addressing multiple complains.
Here is just a few after a very quick search,
I remember there were much more:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2008-06/msg00202.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2021-10/msg01952.html





  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-28 18:26 bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el) Reuben Thomas
2014-07-28 18:44 ` bug#18132: Sample code Reuben Thomas
2014-07-29 23:49 ` bug#18132: Time for a smarter dired-guess-shell-alist-default? (dired-x.el) Juri Linkov
2014-07-30  9:12   ` Reuben Thomas
2014-07-30 16:32     ` Juri Linkov
2014-07-30 16:44       ` Reuben Thomas
2014-08-04 23:45         ` Juri Linkov
2014-08-05  9:41           ` Reuben Thomas
2021-10-23  5:25             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23  7:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  8:16                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23  8:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23  9:48                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 11:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 13:06                       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 13:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-23 13:01                   ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 13:56                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 14:03                       ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-23 15:45                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-23 17:17                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-23 20:53                           ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-24  6:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24  7:56                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 17:49                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 19:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24  7:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-24 14:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 18:10                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-26 10:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-27 17:32                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:05                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:35                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29  7:09                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-29 13:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-02 17:44                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-02 18:37                                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-12-03 17:04                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-03 21:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-06 17:28                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-07 17:33                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-07 17:48                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-08  7:37                                                                     ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2023-12-08  8:08                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-09 17:13                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22  6:16                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22 12:42                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23  6:19                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-23  7:16                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23 17:31                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-23 18:15                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-24  6:44                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-24  7:31                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-24 17:56                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-23 17:57                       ` Howard Melman
2021-10-23 18:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-23 19:22                           ` bug#18132: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-24 16:35                           ` Howard Melman
2021-10-24 19:08                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-24  5:10                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-07-30  3:56 ` Eli Zaretskii

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