From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74145: 31.0.50; Default lexical-binding to t Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 09:07:33 +0200 Message-ID: <86sesb1lfu.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30938"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Andrea Corallo , 74145@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 01 08:08:22 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t6lld-0007oq-SU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 08:08:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t6llN-0003iy-1X; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t6llK-0003iU-SI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t6llK-0000ly-Fy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:08:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:To:Subject; bh=M67of8cihw+hu5QXjVnfjPRXdBHl4yyZ9B1Yiuh1RzU=; b=vCx8QbqFhMJRsf43CMz7Y6iHkl6UC6JgA/D2v0VKrfmnwTFrsvZtDQuqLzPoAsznrtCmCEgDol0zNLjYjutJPGz/rwMb4JL28zARnc10actz8cKOCvJ8+tZrDVUWPfNB2L2BsrgjZIWVz2cIbfMpFk2AcWJnkNI87aU4kwBdt6/htu9efVqo0BDn4nJMAqr2eHKgSS0MUn1kKlJWMF7F9YZhztkguva9A87QlDpShsc4IIcM0L9VP0UQUd+ZYQ2++73Lgxygslx+zfQSKnXPQxBXbC9VB6Eivb0Pj/kuu6UxiKBhNuNeikSa6FwUj7lTY50P4NkB4ACOZY/Fv2P8rA==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t6llK-00058U-6G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 07:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74145 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 74145-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74145.173044486219714 (code B ref 74145); Fri, 01 Nov 2024 07:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 74145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2024 07:07:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47301 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t6ll0-00057u-EL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:07:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37852) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t6lky-00057l-F3 for 74145@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t6lks-0000ka-Ic; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 03:07:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=M67of8cihw+hu5QXjVnfjPRXdBHl4yyZ9B1Yiuh1RzU=; b=UdBG5lIY5vxa lJb0xtbd1czUblEKY74oRG2M8/GIfbYpvzBxpmi00DkR/SyMyo2rwTWtmLSpqYp80Trck2/daL1CO ncRrhyj9jBttehpJEb62MifyQ3ulo7ASrcbU7JSnH6ISVECOa9RWQpAtWjwk9LEeKVL3uDtidL58+ 5ydR6kcRBdb3g1KzCp8QZVsRNknQSXik61Vi0IPCujdI2dNKeO5jG83AUwxQHIfj199Boj+qNjgaP Nm6xbnR7yga3rlLllanUpZoAJUCRgBviZN5h66OHb9uan3JM+wqcbPBGk5LnXXRZi4RkFj5GPJiD9 rxypYzOk7YSVFw7PiJU+rA==; In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:294658 Archived-At: > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 16:57:57 -0400 > From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > I believe the time has come to change the default dialect. > I attached a suggested patch to do that. Thanks, but this kind of change cannot be discussed here. Please start a discussion on emacs-devel, and please include in your suggestion the description of the effects of this change on various parts of Emacs and third-party package. We need to give the community ample time and opportunity to discuss those effects and express opinions, before we install something like that. In particular, any objections should be taken very seriously, and perhaps some follow-up measures should be included in the changeset to make the transition smoother and easier.