From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Compiling emacs 22 on ubuntu 7.0.4 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:30:32 +0200 Message-ID: <86r6ogw69z.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <701fce30706102144k17151433rc78902a60e136884@mail.gmail.com> <466CE537.4030906@swipnet.se> <466DC104.4000701@gnu.org> <466FB669.3030006@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181727064 17156 80.91.229.12 (13 Jun 2007 09:31:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: silverburgh.meryl@gmail.com, Jason Rumney , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 13 11:30:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HyPBk-0008Pp-Ax for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:30:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyPBk-0000rE-5V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:30:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HyPBY-0000pP-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HyPBW-0000jV-54 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:30:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyPBU-0000j7-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HyPBU-0007F3-0L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14648 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:30:32 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 26472 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2007 09:30:34 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jun 2007 09:30:34 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 727BC8FA36; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:30:33 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <466FB669.3030006@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Wed\, 13 Jun 2007 11\:18\:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72755 Archived-At: Jan Dj=E4rv writes: > Richard Stallman skrev: >> > If some image libraries that ought to be present for a proper buil= d of >> > Emacs are missing, is it really good for Emacs to compile without >> > those features? Or would it be better to get error messages >> > and tell the user to install those development packages? >> >=20=20=20 >> >> Another way to solve these problems would be to use ppm files for the >> color icons, since ppm support is built in to Emacs. >> >> The problem I am talking about is not just about icons. >> Emacs ought to support various graphics formats, >> if their libraries are installed. If they are not installed, >> why should Emacs build without complaint and then lack the >> functionality? I think it's a mistake. > > I have machines where no libpng or lib(un)gif are installed. But I > don't need that functionallity in Emacs. So why should Emacs reuire > those libraries? libXpm is another matter, it is needed to see color > icons. png is the default graphics format for preview-latex . It is not uncommon for users to report problems with selfcompiled Emacs variants. I don't mind being able to specify --without-libpng and/or --without-libgif, but the default behavior makes it somewhat too easy to overlook that one is not generating a fully-capable Emacs for a given platform. --=20 David Kastrup