From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright question Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:59:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86r6b1irjs.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <82BFC2C8-9E38-491F-863D-1C420AB13882@uva.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213351212 9644 80.91.229.12 (13 Jun 2008 10:00:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel Mailinglist To: Carsten Dominik Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 13 12:00:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K765G-0007hR-9n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:00:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40107 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K764S-0002hT-JY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:59:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K764J-0002fs-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K764I-0002ej-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34012 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K764I-0002eW-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]:33564) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K764H-0004v1-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 10370 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2008 09:59:35 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jun 2008 09:59:35 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CEA2D8EFE7; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:59:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:19:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.0.55; VDF: 7.0.4.188; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99085 Archived-At: Carsten Dominik writes: > On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> I would like to switch the copyright of the Org-mode manual to GPL. >>> Currently it is GFDL, with front/back cover texts, and I am told >>> that the Debian cannot include this in their distribution - >>> therefore, >>> the Org-mode package in Debian is currently without Manual. >> >> Actually, Debian can and does include such things in their >> distribution, >> but in the `non-free' section. This is the case for the Emacs online >> docs (in package emacs22-common-non-dfsg). >> >> Also, you do not need to abandon the GFDL to be allowed in the main >> section of Debian. You "only" need to use the GFDL without any >> front&back matters (IIRC). > > Well, I am happy with this solution, so I am going to remove these > parts from the copyright notice. The copyright notice will now read: > > @quotation > Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document > under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.1 or > any later version published by the Free Software Foundation. > @end quotation > > Any objections? General GNU project policy is to distribute with certain front&back matters. So I'd ask Richard whether he is ok with it since he still is pretty much the one setting the project licensing policies in Emacs. Note that for the distribution as an integral part of Emacs, this is sort of pointless, since the Emacs manuals are "Debian non-free" anyway and so it is not particularly useful if org-mode is different here. For the org-mode distributed separately by yourself, I believe it is utlimately your own call to make, though it would be appropriate, if it is registered as a GNU project, to apply the general guidelines to it. -- David Kastrup