From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:07:56 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86r6993m9f.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <0ded5ecd-f5f6-4a8e-9d19-f61bf0401022@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <927b0c4a-3de2-4be5-b86a-7ffacc4d718e@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217533257 30991 80.91.229.12 (31 Jul 2008 19:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:40:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 31 21:41:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOe1p-0003ua-6x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:41:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49589 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOe0u-0003aF-RD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:40:40 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net MSAa3ao0IwqUg4mD22X9ae8sdL6WkKspA4y8401Ywmjt7+McKMQ4cfiYWu9r0Mkl+5nsyyudscHZQ1boXWzpRD6uA1rr5d9QfaBZnId4LYIDvwIdJaSifSCMrQqTejUv Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@albasani.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:03:16 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: yP73e3yld0xrq639FuJkHbmA6NGO/2IJiF9GNXPZ1DI= X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Cancel-Lock: sha1:8v5agCIeF2jUoo+m//fweQh9ZgQ= sha1:ao2/wkiHa+G+Y2OvqQlnpRvXAjQ= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 6g1PAYHvXnDr0X1d2+/su2PDnIjxatsl9E61pd8Fu4E= Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160756 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56100 Archived-At: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Xah wrote: >> In that case I suggest you start by making your change suggestion >> through the proper channels, not in this newsgroup. I don't feel like >> explaining to you basic facts about man-hours, volunteer labor, and the >> hundreds of thousands of Emacs users that would deal with that change. >> Again, I'm not being rude, just unwilling to spend my time explaining >> all this when you don't appear to have any experience writing manuals, >> software, or doing user support. X> Can you keep to topic instead giving me extraneous advice? Above I listed the things I don't want to explain to you (but, with a little brain activity, you could understand for yourself) that make your 4 man-hours estimate to implement your proposed change extremely unrealistic. This is very much on-topic. It's frustrating that you simply ignore reasonable answers when they don't suit you. X> For example, i suggest you more books about philosophy, critical X> thinking. I don't mean to be rude, but really, reading those books X> will help you discuss more fruitfully, even if you don't have real X> world experience working in a large software project. Thanks, I'll put it on my reading list. My philosophy readings have been lax lately, what with the pomegranate garden blooming and the seawater distillation plant getting jammed with dolphins and the orphanage running low on porridge. I assume that meanwhile you've been working in large software projects. X> The proper channel for telling me my use of Alt-‹key› is wrong then X> perhaps is email. I don't care to tell *you* that. I tried to tell the end user who you misled when you used Alt, while the Emacs manual and community uses Meta. That's why I am suggesting footnotes, so your information is not misleading but merely verbose. Ted