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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Could we include diff and grep (etc.) executables on Windows?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 10:05:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86r225dpqk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvimniba62.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:39:54 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>>> Maybe streamlining the MSYS way to install Emacs is the easiest/best way
>>>> to solve this problem?
>>> Depends on what you mean by that (and what you mean when you say "MSYS").
>
> God question.  IIUC one of the main problems with bundling tools is
> having to compile them, keep the versions up-to-date, distributing the
> sources, etc....
>
> So what I meant mostly was: don't actually bundle them, but just provide
> some straightforward way to install Emacs+tools where the tools are
> actually fetched from some other place that handles the job of
> compiling, keeping them up-to-date, distributing the sources, ...
>
> I assumed MSYS could be that "other place" but apparently that's not
> the case.  Maybe that doesn't invalidate the underlying idea, tho.

There is an emacs package currently in MSYS2, with both mingw-w64 and
msys2 versions (for emacs 26.2). I have not tried them (mainly because
they didn't used to be there), so I don't know what other packages/tools
they install.

There are also emacs packages in Cygwin, for text and X11 (for emacs
26.3); I have not tried those in a long time.

So "die-hard" mingw or cygwin users are already covered. That leaves the
Gnu distribution of Emacs for Windows to cover the remaining users,
which are probably a very diverse lot.

I compile emacs from source (usually master, sometimes the release
branch), and use MSYS2/mingw64 for all tools not provided by emacs (as
do many others). For tools not yet in MSYS2 (primarily LaTeX), I use
Cygwin. This process does have some downsides, but I find it the best
way.

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-18 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-17 11:50 Could we include diff and grep (etc.) executables on Windows? Mathias Dahl
2019-11-17 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-17 17:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 17:49     ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 19:39       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-18 15:53         ` Phillip Lord
2019-11-18 18:05         ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2019-11-19 14:56           ` Phillip Lord
2019-11-19 15:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19 20:32         ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-20 16:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 15:49     ` Phillip Lord
2019-11-18 16:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 15:48 ` Phillip Lord
2019-11-18 16:09   ` Eli Zaretskii

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