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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247160 Archived-At: Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel writes: > On 16/04/2020 15.14, Stephen Leake wrote: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >>=20 >>>>> Here are my requires: >>> >>> As a general rule, `require` should not appear in a `~/.emacs`. >>> It's for use at the top of a library file. > > What's the replacement, then? > >> They should be replaced with the relevant (load-file "...autoloads"). > > That doesn't do the same thing at all. What if you want to use > functions that are not autoloaded, or macros? Speaking as the ada-mode author, if you have a use case for an ada-mode function that should work this way but does not currently, please report it as a bug (either in debbugs or on the ada-mode mailing list). Other packages should also treat such use cases as bugs. On the other hand, if you are using non-autoloaded functions from some package in your own code, then your code should be in a file with the necessary "requires" at the top. --=20 -- Stephe