From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64759: Broken faces Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 19:20:44 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86r0p11bj7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <86fs5h4vo2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fs5h1z38.fsf@gnu.org> <86bkg53cau.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a5vp1qmu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24466"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 64759@debbugs.gnu.org, maurooaranda@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 21 18:23:28 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qMsuc-0006Cm-Qg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:23:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMsuH-0008Rx-3K; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMsuE-0008Rd-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMsuE-0002MB-Ik for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMsuE-0006jQ-Ec for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64759 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64759-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64759.168995656425838 (code B ref 64759); Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64759) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 16:22:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMstw-0006if-At for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:22:44 -0400 Original-Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:60491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMstu-0006iQ-I9 for 64759@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:22:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9562840004; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:22:35 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83a5vp1qmu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jul 2023 13:54:33 +0300") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265742 Archived-At: >> It seems adding non-empty definitions in bug#64655 >> were intended to workaround a bug in cus-edit.el, >> not to fix it. > > I don't think it's a bug. Why is it a bug to tell the user that the > face has no information to show as the current definition? How this is different from a variable that has a nil value? The Customization UI can handle it. > Moreover, what does it mean to have nil there in defface? The > meaning of nil is not documented anywhere that I could see, so what > did the authors of such code expect it to produce? Why not nil? Every variable supports a nil value. Why can't faces do the same?