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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master bf0aeaa0d7a: Re-enable displaying `han' characters on Android
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 12:56:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86r0b8woq3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sevor2ut.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 01 Aug 2024 17:47:54 +0800)

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 17:47:54 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > But users can add a font spec for 'han' to the fontset, cannot they?
> > And if they do, then the representative characters _are_ important,
> > aren't they?  So I don't think we should remove those characters.
> 
> Such an action would be pointless, as the fontset would not match any
> CJK font actually in existence, and it would break the Android build to
> boot.

Then Android users should not do that.  But users of other systems
could, and we should not prevent them from doing so.

> If anyone seriously considers non-existent characters important
> enough to construct a font spec that matches them, he can easily amend
> script-representative-chars for himself or define another script.  If
> these pages are opened, for example:
> 
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+20000
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2a700
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2b740
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2b820
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2ceb0
> 
> in Mozilla (not to mention Emacs) on my GNU/Linux system or on Android,
> tofu is displayed, and there can hardly be said to exist an OS system
> that is better internationalized out of the box than is Android.  The
> remaining characters:
> 
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2f804
>   https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1f210
> 
> are displayed correctly, but are barely attested or expected to be
> present by CJK users in practice, and U+1F210 is arguably rather a
> symbol than a proper character.

On my Windows 11 system, I see all of them, and I didn't install any
additional fonts for CJK.  So your assertion is simply not true.
Maybe your GNU/Linux system is outdated, or maybe GNU/Linux users with
CJK interests are supposed to install optional packages that you don't
have installed.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-01  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31 15:45 master bf0aeaa0d7a: Re-enable displaying `han' characters on Android Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01  0:07 ` Po Lu
2024-08-01  0:33   ` Po Lu
2024-08-01  5:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01  7:55       ` Po Lu
2024-08-01  8:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01  9:47           ` Po Lu
2024-08-01  9:56             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-01 10:13               ` Po Lu
2024-08-01 10:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01 21:17             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-08-01  5:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01  8:16     ` Po Lu
2024-08-01  9:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01 10:30         ` Po Lu
2024-08-01 10:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-02 10:52           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-08-02 12:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-02 12:55               ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-08-02 13:13                 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-08-03  7:12                   ` pipcet
2024-08-03  8:52                     ` Po Lu
2024-08-03  9:21                       ` pipcet
2024-08-03  9:33                         ` Po Lu
2024-08-03 13:13                           ` pipcet
2024-08-03 13:31                             ` Po Lu
2024-08-03 14:31                               ` pipcet
2024-08-03 14:54                                 ` Po Lu
2024-08-07 17:52                                   ` Pip Cet
2024-08-08  0:10                                     ` Po Lu
2024-08-09 12:33                                       ` Pip Cet
2024-08-09 13:10                                         ` Po Lu
2024-08-03 15:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-02 10:44       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2024-08-02 11:42         ` Po Lu
2024-08-01  7:57   ` Andrea Corallo

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