From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74042: [PATCH] Accept texi2any for version identification Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 05:23:48 +0200 Message-ID: <86r0807vwb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87jzduaqou.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfmpaolv.fsf@gnu.org> <87plnl4epo.fsf@gnu.org> <868qu98ide.fsf@gnu.org> <87h68x44e0.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 74042@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mats Lidell Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 28 04:26:47 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GP1-0005bN-Dy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2024 04:26:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GOl-0007Qf-Bn; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GOi-0007QK-IR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GOh-0006Rp-Sr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:26:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:To:Subject; bh=P30szefGeoo/epOO6ArEGxWMvWadz1fPh54EcdFS2D4=; b=jzKUe1KRBNrnsWvm/sv7c/6tpbxO9YFit13KAkEVmpebuf4utdKCHnWLJwasFDmwfvknBNJJTr1lW4YYq93rXG45aVh5QaTowMkm8q9p9qltX+p7AP0+xhBzKuv10xi+clsjEbNBgfHppIEfsUUsMTT6gz5huEqc6gdXz4VsEbwrghZKkPf/m3frXsWfz1qpRu4nuaGlmMoUtYXsu3DWVqsSAc0pVdyfA6LxknBy0pr7XapGkO3gV/Rygx8+FxNwOTTOKJXCOZzuSJcl+bMgoXs9d/g7E3xPS5FWG30uTl6V1Ev7QsT2H4gCAf3rG+IvSYWXXjlVVi3PTk6cJZwOcg==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GPG-0001DX-70 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 03:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74042 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 74042-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74042.17300860104625 (code B ref 74042); Mon, 28 Oct 2024 03:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 74042) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2024 03:26:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GP4-0001CR-2P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:26:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45156) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GP2-0001Bt-2a for 74042@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:26:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GMD-0006Bz-Ti for 74042@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:23:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=P30szefGeoo/epOO6ArEGxWMvWadz1fPh54EcdFS2D4=; b=PSpvRxGzJ0aB QGDEP2Bp16j5wsXlnw7PFymXp4qQV//KUjlZwuKa9cCbpms8frsxbR60/gq7eCFmokHFHq5hZokrl iGCkJ92UPf78FZmjPO2D5EyPuBPv8q5f7VHJSSbgysnK8Y5oYJvHu3cbH8xrcf3xZ+cRY5eY7WXWC XBC8cVFnDNYQrq3ZkMK9KHq1kOksQk6XQP/Rv0ayJpxhlfYKNNCKsv6PFnqXbig7o5W+H8uB/cPEe QOxuYGfJBjy++pOLAkBokfi8srCtSIcdnbvucisLJNYKCNgvutZ1QGLuFTaujXSRy/Bzo4luMBCW1 YHqxOV1B6zM752m+XAsBwg==; In-Reply-To: <87h68x44e0.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Mats Lidell on Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:33:59 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:294408 Archived-At: > From: Mats Lidell > Cc: 74042@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:33:59 +0100 > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Why would users do that by invoking texi2any directly? > > Because texi2any is a tool for generating info files from texi files!? > > We started to use it with GNU Hyperbole and got into this subtle issue (and > wasted some hours due to it.) IMNSHO, as someone who is involved in the Texinfo development for many years, the GNU Hyperbole made a mistake by doing so. > > FTR, I'm very unhappy about this change. I don't think we should support > > this. It is not future-proof. > > Well to take a step back. Is not the root problem here that the version number > of a tool is used for checking whether certain feature is supported in the > info file? If the check would be more direct then the tool would not matter as > long as the info file is correct!? Texinfo doesn't let us check for features, sadly. The only way to know which features are present is by looking at the version.