From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `*' interactive spec in some text-killing functions Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:07:05 +0200 Message-ID: <86ps3gy02e.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <858xa56rm5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85y7i55a0v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85myyl5945.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85fy4d56u8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85bqf0649m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183018037 1936 80.91.229.12 (28 Jun 2007 08:07:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 28 10:07:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I3p21-0003CY-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:07:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3p20-0002ox-V5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3p1x-0002og-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3p1w-0002oJ-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3p1w-0002oG-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I3p1v-0000Uf-LT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29528 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:07:05 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 6485 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2007 08:07:05 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jun 2007 08:07:05 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 62E058F832; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:07:05 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu\, 28 Jun 2007 09\:51\:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73972 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On 6/28/07, David Kastrup wrote: > >> No, it wouldn't. > > Well, I'm a user, and *I* would benefit in the same way, which is: > "Uh? Ah, OK, that wasn't very smart." But _why_ wouldn't it be "smart"? The command _is_ executed, it has the normal effect (which may become relevant if the buffer-read-only state changes), and it does _absolutely_ no harm to the buffer contents or anything else. You still have not presented a single case where a notice would be of any use at all, even if just to prevent the user from wasting time or energy. All that you have stated so far is that you want a warning. What for? What help will it provide to the user? Do you fear that a user will spend hours toggling Overwrite mode without noticing that he can't insert or overwrite? Why should Emacs warn about executing a command that it can perfectly well execute? I don't get it, and you are not exactly making a convincing, or even any case for it. -- David Kastrup