From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Wells Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: un-deprecating CL Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:02:37 +0100 Message-ID: <86ps0jiwfm.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> References: <864phxjj03.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> <87hclx834d.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189882990 514 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2007 19:03:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, Eli Zaretskii , dto@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 21:03:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IWcv0-0000D4-Id for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:03:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWcuz-0004Vc-Qq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWcuw-0004Ux-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWcus-0004Tt-UX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:02:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWcus-0004Tn-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from izanami.macs.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.13.6]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IWcug-0000wT-Tx; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from selene.macs.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.27.40]:45978 helo=127.0.0.1) by izanami.macs.hw.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1IWcuc-0000wR-00; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:02:38 +0100 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 1889 invoked by uid 1001); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:02:37 -0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 15 Sep 2007 14\:06\:47 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78981 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Perhaps the right thing is to move several commonly used CL > constructs into the standard namespace and document them in the > manual. I nominate the following constructs. Extremely useful: incf callf callf2 setf function* destructuring-bind case typecase loop union intersection set-difference subst sort* delete* Useful: pushnew adjoin caaar caaddr caadr cadaddr cadar caddar cadddr caddr cdaar defun* flet every substitute find subsetp I suppose also someone should check whether the definitions in CL of these are the same as the non-CL Emacs definitions (and if so delete the ones in CL, otherwise somehow merge the functionality): pop push dolist caar cadr cdar cddr -- Joe