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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100550 Archived-At: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:11 +0300 Juri Linkov wrote: JL> 1. Could you also add rules to input vowels with the combining acute JL> accent like you did for the combining grave accent, i.e. could you add JL> ("a'" ["а́"]) and other vowels with the primary stress? Done. I had to remove some conflicting rules. JL> 2. There are now two conflicting rules: ("E`" ["Ѐ"]) and ("E`" ?Э). Moved Э to @@ (since э was on @ already). JL> 3. I just realized that we could leave the rule ("'" ?ь), because JL> it has no conflict with ("a'" ["а́"]). The letter `ь' is never used JL> after a vowel. Done, and '' is also back to Ь. x/X again input Cyrillic х/Х. JL> 4. Please swap the mappings between ("/``" ?”) and ("/''" ?“), JL> and also between ("/'" ?‘) and ("/`" ?’), because usually backquotes JL> are used for left quotation marks, and apostrophes are used for right JL> quotation marks. OK. Please check my work, I did my best to proofread the rules. JL> 5. Something is wrong with encoding of small roman numeral 1-10. JL> Maybe we should recode cyrillic.el from iso-2022-7bit to utf-8 JL> to avoid these problems? Looks OK to me, but do whatever you think is necessary. >> When Handa-san commits his multiple input method support, I'll split >> rules into multiple methods as we discussed. JL> I tried the patch that Handa-san submitted in 2007, and it works well JL> (with only one change of removing unnecessary `nreverse'). So I think JL> we should now design a good UI to use multiple input method support. I think the variable default-input-method should accept a list with implied priority (first is highest) or a function (returning a list or a string), and DTRT. C-u C-\ should only enable the first method in the list. C-u 2 C-\ should enable the first two methods. C-\ enables all the methods in the chain. All of these should collapse to the current C-\ behavior if default-input-method is a string or a function returning a string. Ted