From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: limit native compilation - how Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:11:02 +0100 Message-ID: <86pmoq5omh.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> References: <8735lp57kl.fsf@yandex.com> <83sftpyos0.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6fxugwg.fsf@zoho.eu> <83r199ymxj.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqluem4.fsf@zoho.eu> <83pmoszxwx.fsf@gnu.org> <874k64ddwo.fsf@yandex.com> <86h7a4954a.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83czksyszr.fsf@gnu.org> <86zgnv7w9n.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83wnizykig.fsf@gnu.org> <86r1977uu6.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83tue3yiw9.fsf@gnu.org> <86h7a37qzf.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87zgnvdcpw.fsf@zoho.eu> <86czkr7pov.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83o84bye6m.fsf@gnu.org> <86y23f5xxd.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83zgnvwmc1.fsf@gnu.org> <86tue25vo9.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83fspmwjym.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25766"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 17:14:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Uen-0006Sy-Oi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:14:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48324 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Uem-0001hC-Iy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:14:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9UbO-0007oX-GC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:11:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:47013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Ub2-0006NC-Tc; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:11:20 -0500 Original-Received: from ping ([92.116.180.222]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MfYDO-1mgkU220uO-00g2hC; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:11:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83fspmwjym.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:49:37 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:SxETxhUslGb3ZPnRsy9R3b2wO2PIIvZrIx9LsvxpWtRsoNKCSpX 8jER3r2345qPvUsQ37wGL6iGFwQxL5qIR2ZkG+G9Rtt+/XWDxBqzmSjA4BJI5WU0S1Al68E ltdYgF6AuSZBhtHbf+CRbcZmXUZYReNQZ7NmtmrlGrtCAAXoruzuyjxTo+sU5EoZZmQra9z aoXI1hvh949TatpMgNIvg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ba0elkPrr7k=:Zq74uZ84fggixIiP3l35CY P9WyLZj/bID+kajhecAKmysCvlag5hfv+ulff7MyVJjiaMP5hY0weF2XKL9d6yiUw5493PeBf uoiPCwBUFH0oCi24tz/43Fj46aQ45s/6Q+OvUSGkjc3b9+PVBzFsa5OOahHFt1x3Eeab0Ju4B agDySdNSNXjHL84GaoFh2MOCpHM2tkGbHKu/u6AbxA8CKyFarsCVDZjbbkRcM2JZbDztb3ryx Ua2+pOWrO0gq3IbQ9wC+Rxl2LJjyyB9FbWjdxGRVOZF0K0lyq2MKT77jQK+wVUrXIfaoRtr01 Qy+BRZd1CkZtaZRrxG6WCph0wakeZsQy+fJlm0OEHQN1QDW9u9qFsGsOdz7P2Zh+mPoQyCgtU vWBgAG84anrCMupJdVSotsuZ9jYSHVeLlyjU5PM8iAAsEbShU0HdjW+HQF/H+fkcZyaHTkM5g 0A7XiwdWN8c+js7r0JgxHJHMUwQJiVcV5nJmP7k0pMAEPQbvmLAuy8lG6IshZwLE02ZV+cm6H KiF9VG6L9kNWL8MdJiNTJgOSfgqscZoFrRz+dwMiK5tXISKuhmoa72TYcEdN4s/9SyhLAIDtF 9TFgfZFE+B8ZjovdWL3wiuNchhyC6t0JExvRhVE30h+hieHvih7sPOKYwA+jWRpey++1NsTZC j35RGH02iZHVMn4EIz4byxGOGZUaW3XNy5ilkTmKZiDvSZ4nRV0oRWYsQtu5Hs+etF1lQbDQx o6TwA484M+q1GR6S Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.227.17.13; envelope-from=dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135383 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" >> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:38:46 +0100 >> >> > This typically happens during the first few minutes of a session, and >> >> For a session only?! > > The first session (assuming your use patterns are repeatable enough). > >> I hoped that the cache (or the .eln files) can last a live time of an >> Emacs build! Except maybe when packages will be updated. > > That's what I meant, except that I was talking about the bundled > packages. All right, I felt it was 70 % clear but I wanted it 100 %, thank you! >> I just updated some Elpa packages and it seems they won't be natively >> compiled at this stage. > > They will be compiled when Emacs loads them for the first time, > assuming that they were byte-compiled into *.elc. Micromanagement alert: I'm wondering if it would be more fluid to compile packages natively during installation and updating? The user expects then a delay, anyway, and might be spared small "jerkings" during normal operation.. >> > then subsides. It's JIT compilation in action, and is normal. The >> > JIT compilation uses half the execution cores of the machine. >> >> Half the cores, I see, thanks > > (And of course there's a defcustom to tune this.) :-) -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany