Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Evans Winner]

bev <fbe2@comcast.net> writes:

    Hi all.
 
    I'd like to figure out a way to open an outline file in
    it's fully collapsed state, so that all I see is the
    headers.

I believe you can add the string --

  #+STARTUP: overview 

-- to the very top of your file.  Check the info file:

  (info "(org)In-buffer settings")

Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[bev]

Hi all.

I'd like to figure out a way to open an outline file in it's fully
collapsed state, so that all I see is the headers. As things stand
now, when I open a file in outline-mode it's fully expanded and I have
to run \C-c \C-q - (hide-subtrees) -  to get it into the collapsed
state. It's a bore to have to do that every single time I open one of
those files.

I tried adding (eval-after-load (hide-subtrees)) to the outline-mode-
hook, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Bev

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Xavier Maillard]

   bev <fbe2@comcast.net> writes:

       Hi all.

       I'd like to figure out a way to open an outline file in
       it's fully collapsed state, so that all I see is the
       headers.

   I believe you can add the string --

     #+STARTUP: overview 

   -- to the very top of your file.  Check the info file:

     (info "(org)In-buffer settings")

Does this work with the regular outline-mode ?

	Xavier
-- 
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Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[bev]

On Mar 25, 6:00 pm, Xavier Maillard <x...@gnu.org> wrote:
>    bev <f...@comcast.net> writes:
>
>        Hi all.
>
>        I'd like to figure out a way to open an outline file in
>        it's fully collapsed state, so that all I see is the
>        headers.
>
>    I believe you can add the string --
>
>      #+STARTUP: overview
>
>    -- to the very top of your file.  Check the info file:
>
>      (info "(org)In-buffer settings")
>
> Does this work with the regular outline-mode ?
>
>         Xavier
> --http://www.gnu.orghttp://www.april.orghttp://www.lolica.org

Hi Guys,

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying add that to the top
of every single outline file I have? (Hundreds). I don't want to do
that. I need a function that will simply run (hide-trees) every time I
open an outline file. I really can't take the time to go add a line to
hundreds of files. Also, I've never seen that before. Is that lisp
code?

Thanks

Bev

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Evans Winner]

bev <fbe2@comcast.net> writes:

    I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying add that to the top
    of every single outline file I have? (Hundreds). I don't want to do
    that. I need a function that will simply run (hide-trees) every time I
    open an outline file. I really can't take the time to go add a line to
    hundreds of files. Also, I've never seen that before. Is that lisp
    code?

No, as I already said, this was a mistake on my part.  I
thought the question was about org-mode.  I am pretty sure
this will not work for outline mode.

Maybe try putting in your .emacs something like 

  (add-to-list 'outline-mode-hook (lambda (hide-sublevels 1)))

I haven't tested it, but I think something like this would
be the answer.

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[bev]

On Mar 27, 7:25 am, Evans Winner <tho...@timbral.net> wrote:
> bev <f...@comcast.net> writes:
>
>     I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying add that to the top
>     of every single outline file I have? (Hundreds). I don't want to do
>     that. I need a function that will simply run (hide-trees) every time I
>     open an outline file. I really can't take the time to go add a line to
>     hundreds of files. Also, I've never seen that before. Is that lisp
>     code?
>
> No, as I already said, this was a mistake on my part.  I
> thought the question was about org-mode.  I am pretty sure
> this will not work for outline mode.
>
> Maybe try putting in your .emacs something like
>
>   (add-to-list 'outline-mode-hook (lambda (hide-sublevels 1)))
>
> I haven't tested it, but I think something like this would
> be the answer.

Ah, ok, sorry about not getting the org-mode mistake.
That looks good. I'll try it. In the meantime I figured out one
solution, which seems a little klugey, but it works:

(add-hook 'outline-mode-hook '(lambda ()
       (beginning-of-buffer)
       (outline-next-visible-heading 1)
       (hide-other)
       (hide-subtree)))

Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. I appreciate it. I'll try
your solution as it's more elegant, and seems much closer to THE RIGHT
WAY to do it.

Bev

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[bev]

On Mar 27, 7:25 am, Evans Winner <tho...@timbral.net> wrote:
> bev <f...@comcast.net> writes:
>
>     I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying add that to the top
>     of every single outline file I have? (Hundreds). I don't want to do
>     that. I need a function that will simply run (hide-trees) every time I
>     open an outline file. I really can't take the time to go add a line to
>     hundreds of files. Also, I've never seen that before. Is that lisp
>     code?
>
> No, as I already said, this was a mistake on my part.  I
> thought the question was about org-mode.  I am pretty sure
> this will not work for outline mode.
>
> Maybe try putting in your .emacs something like
>
>   (add-to-list 'outline-mode-hook (lambda (hide-sublevels 1)))
>
> I haven't tested it, but I think something like this would
> be the answer.


Evans,

Yep, a slight variation of your solution works. I now have in
my .emacs:
(add-hook 'outline-mode-hook '(lambda () (hide-sublevels 1)))

I've never seen that syntax before -- putting a '1' after a function
that takes no args. Does that just mean 'make it so'? I don't know why
just having hide-sublevels without the '1' won't work.

Thanks Evans.

Bev

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Evans Winner]

bev <fbe2@comcast.net> writes:

    Yep, a slight variation of your solution works. I now
    have in my .emacs:
    (add-hook 'outline-mode-hook '(lambda () (hide-sublevels 1)))

Forgot to quote it.  Sorry.

    I've never seen that syntax before -- putting a '1'
    after a function that takes no args. Does that just mean
    'make it so'? I don't know why just having
    hide-sublevels without the '1' won't work.

`hide-sublevels' used non-interactively actually does take
one argument[1].  Its interactive definition must give it some
way around that, since used interactively it behaves as if
it were passed the argument `1'.  I am not sure how it works
after a quick glance.  


Footnotes: 
[1]  The documentation for `hide-sublevels' is:

,----[ C-h f hide-sublevels RET ]
| hide-sublevels is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
| `outline.el'.
| 
| 
| (hide-sublevels LEVELS)
| 
| Hide everything but the top LEVELS levels of headers, in whole buffer.
| 
| [back]
`----

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[bev]

On Mar 27, 12:48 pm, Evans Winner <tho...@timbral.net> wrote:
> bev <f...@comcast.net> writes:
>
>     Yep, a slight variation of your solution works. I now
>     have in my .emacs:
>     (add-hook 'outline-mode-hook '(lambda () (hide-sublevels 1)))
>
> Forgot to quote it.  Sorry.
>
>     I've never seen that syntax before -- putting a '1'
>     after a function that takes no args. Does that just mean
>     'make it so'? I don't know why just having
>     hide-sublevels without the '1' won't work.
>
> `hide-sublevels' used non-interactively actually does take
> one argument[1].  Its interactive definition must give it some
> way around that, since used interactively it behaves as if
> it were passed the argument `1'.  I am not sure how it works
> after a quick glance.
>
> Footnotes:
> [1]  The documentation for `hide-sublevels' is:
>
> ,----[ C-h f hide-sublevels RET ]
> | hide-sublevels is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
> | `outline.el'.
> |
> |
> | (hide-sublevels LEVELS)
> |
> | Hide everything but the top LEVELS levels of headers, in whole buffer.
> |
> | [back]
> `----

Ahhhh.... a great light begins to dawn!

Gracias amigo.

Bev

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Bastien]

bev <fbe2@comcast.net> writes:

> I tried adding (eval-after-load (hide-subtrees)) to the outline-mode-
> hook, but that doesn't work.

(add-hook 'outline-mode-hook 'hide-sublevels)

-- 
Bastien

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Bastien]

Evans Winner <thorne@timbral.net> writes:

> I believe you can add the string --
>
>   #+STARTUP: overview 
>
> -- to the very top of your file.  Check the info file:
>
>   (info "(org)In-buffer settings")

This is for org-mode, not for outline-mode.   

-- 
Bastien

Re: Open Outline-mode file in collapsed state

[Bastien]

Evans Winner <thorne@timbral.net> writes:

> `hide-sublevels' used non-interactively actually does take
> one argument[1].  

Missed that, sorry.

So the right solution is the one you already mentioned:

  (add-hook 'outline-mode-hook '(lambda () (hide-sublevels 1)))


Just out of curiosity: using both an (interactive) form and a mandatory
argument looks unclean to me.  I would expect an (interactive "s") form
when the first argument is not optional (and is expected to be a string)
or only optional arguments when (interactive) is used.  

Is there any clean way to decide on this?

-- 
Bastien