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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Installing binaries with package.el
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:43:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86o9ybouhm.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1sv7xoae.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 09 Feb 2017 12:39:15 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> You mean "if we assume that dynload modules will be installed via apt/yum
> rather than via package.el"?
>
> Indeed, I expect that this will end up being fairly common (since even
> if you already have a C compiler installed, it's likely you'll need to
> have to install some libfoo-dev package to get the module to compile).

On the other hand, I'm happy to maintain a Gnu ELPA package, but I quit
being a Debian maintainer years ago, and I never was a maintainer for
other OS distros.

So if my ELPA package gets a dynload module (as is very likely), I will
only be distributing source. And it will work on Linux and Windows
without source change (hint; it won't be in C).

It's not likely that some Debian maintainer will magically appear for
some ELPA package. Popular ELPA packages might get Debian maintainers,
but not small ones. Although I suppose the Debian Emacs maintainer might
step up.

That just increases the pressure on the dynload module developer to
minimize the OS dependence, which is appropriate for a cross-OS tool
like Emacs.

> But I think that the case of non-developers installing via package.el
> should be considered important as well.  We probably won't be able to
> provide as smooth a solution for them as `apt-get` or `yum`, but they
> deserve some efforts on our part.

Right.

If package.el can run a shell script, that will succeed in a typical
case, that's good enough. The package user manual can explain the
dependencies, if any.

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-07  2:09 Installing binaries with package.el Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-02-07  5:29 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-02-07  5:33   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-07  7:22     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-02-07 13:12       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-07 15:07         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-07 16:15           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-07 19:40             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-09 13:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-09 16:20                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-09 17:39                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-09 19:36                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-09 22:43                     ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2017-02-08 18:40     ` Andreas Politz
2017-02-09 15:33       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-09 21:55         ` Andreas Politz
2017-02-10  6:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 16:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 16:16   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-07 16:58     ` Aurélien Aptel
2017-02-07 17:45       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 20:17 ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-07 21:58   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-07 23:34     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-02-08  1:35       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-08 18:52     ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-08 19:17       ` Andreas Politz
2017-02-08 19:44         ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-08 21:36       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-09 19:47         ` Achim Gratz
2017-02-09 20:11           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-09 22:48           ` Stephen Leake

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