From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Web Design Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 21:43:09 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86o9m9bbj6.fsf@zoho.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515098616 25683 195.159.176.226 (4 Jan 2018 20:43:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 20:43:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 04 21:43:32 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eXCMJ-0005xU-5X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 21:43:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40788 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXCOI-0006lC-Cv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 15:45:30 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.albasani.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: zRXoCvQ6k9fneBfYPnB6lQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:YrKaMyWZLkfhNPtJyjmwJF222QQ= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:221459 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115576 Archived-At: Kendall Shaw wrote: > One more post then I'm done. Can't you do just ONE more? > If design is like graphics design and > a program you move images around and put text > together, that was something that existed in > the 90s when more people had personal web > sites (before facebook). This was indeed before Facebook (from 2004) but Facebook was much later. The 90s "personal home page" boom (the original meaning of PHP BTW) - this boom was with services such as GeoCities (1994) and Altavista (1995). Then came the so-called portals with Passagen in Sweden, Yandex in Russia, Yahoo! pretty much worldwide and many, many others. There were also the IM clients such as ICQ (pun for "I seek you") and later MSN - MSN also had an attempted community service which no one used - and all the while IRC, of course, the client for Windows being mIrc. There were also dedicated forums where teenagers used to discuss politics and sex, the result being pretty much embarrassing either way. Even before Facebook were some semi-popular communities, like MySpace (from 2003). Then came Facebook and the smartphone (counter)revolution which was the nail in the coffin for the hole "wicked" creative culture as the common man invaded the Internet widely, and since that day we'll have to do with gnu.emacs.help . Oh, and I forgot to mention AOL which used to send orange CD-ROMS with every computer magazine in the market place. They (AOL) were later, or if it was before, involved in a big controversy in the US (or NA), which here became legendary because no one understood any of it. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573