From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Who to contact about the gateway [Was: Re: Fixing news-mail gateway [Was: Re: Newsgroups mailing-list gateway broken thread]] Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:39:40 +0200 Message-ID: <86o9bnxkpv.fsf@zoho.com> References: <87lg6w43k8.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> <861s8nefj5.fsf@zoho.com> <874ldjtcow.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> <20181018121955500722783@bob.proulx.com> <871s8nqcr5.fsf_-_@portable.galex-713.eu> <87a7n86k9k.fsf_-_@portable.galex-713.eu> <87efcj5s0f.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1540985070 6866 195.159.176.226 (31 Oct 2018 11:24:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:24:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 31 12:24:26 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gHobp-0001gr-Eu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:24:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58690 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHodv-0003np-W1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHocy-0003iS-9U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:25:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHocZ-0005st-UX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41455 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHocZ-0005rD-IX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gHoaN-0008GK-CF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:22:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:yj3u8TpU5vdBkshKOEbQemr/yrQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:118534 Archived-At: Garreau, Alexandre wrote: > My primary gnus-select-method was nnnil so > I needed to set it back to (nntp "news") so > to do that, but yes it works, and indeed, it > is in a very poor state. Way worse than > I thought, and also way worse than here: all > threads, even with sorting by date activated, > are all garbled Threading works well, at least for me. Actually everything works well in terms of technology. What doesn't work, or what is working worse and worse for each year, is the "human factor". And because no newcomers are arriving one can almost even at this point consider Usenet dead technology. Gmane is of course just as good to discuss technology and computers, FOSS projects, and so on, but to be able the discuss ANYTHING with a uniform, text-based interface is probably a thing of the past. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573