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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	jonas@bernoul.li
Subject: Re: with-editor seems like a bug fix
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:58:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86o77jj470.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ed8f531w.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:47:07 +0200)

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
> Cc: manuel@ledu-giraud.fr,  rms@gnu.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>   jonas@bernoul.li
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:47:07 +0200
> 
> >> TL;DR: I don't believe with-editor is just a bug fix. There are reasons
> >>        for the implementation as-it-is. It might profit from using
> >>        emacsclient also for the remote case (when possible), but nobody
> >>        has taken the stab.
> >
> > I don't see how we can discuss a package which solves problems we
> > don't understand.
> 
> Oh, we understand. When there is no emacsclient on the remote host, we
> cannot use it. with-editor solves this problems.

I meant in the local case.

For the remote case, if you think the solution in with-editor is the
best we can do, let's install something like that in our own code, or
maybe provide a user option for doing that.

> > Until and unless someone describes the problems which with-editor
> > solves in enough detail for us to understand what goes wrong and
> > where, I don't think we can discuss the addition of the package to
> > core.
> 
> Yep, there are more use cases to investigate. But there doesn't seem
> enough pressure (from users) to change the status quo.
> 
> I believe it is OK to keep with-editor in ELPA.

Fine by me.  Removal from ELPA was never on the table.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-29 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27  3:07 with-editor seems like a bug fix Richard Stallman
2024-06-27  5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-27  6:14   ` Po Lu
2024-06-27  9:44   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2024-06-27 10:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-27 10:58       ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-29 11:06       ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-29 12:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-29 12:47           ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-29 12:58             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-06-29 14:39               ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-29 15:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-29 16:08                   ` Michael Albinus
2024-07-02 19:43                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-07-06 11:15                       ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-30 11:51               ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-01  1:52                 ` Stefan Kangas

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