From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Lambdas for beginners broken - help, please Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:33:59 +0300 Message-ID: <86o76l4sew.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sevz0w8q.fsf@web.de> <87ttgezhej.fsf@web.de> <86v80u59s9.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 13:34:51 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sWwkF-000ALe-4t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:34:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWwja-00071a-IF; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWwjS-0006zX-RB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWwjR-0006tX-Mi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:34:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=NOBx0ACuB3fAlfVuA+Q5PQzSoKt4v5hyqGG67bmKxTQ=; b=RKgcv5OpNCfK wavPztFgCkdvM575Cbm+exm6L37UqcEMk0xlPMx9WiPxJpqVW2AlvScrUE+MHbrdR7dYbRLGBXfNh bQWpEk/5jQheSx4AyU78eFRo7zSeu8ex4iMG6zzoYh0csUP1VviqG7xFItY4cicB3vIkkh9ybYqAl 4nJej7P7Ys49kXWJxh+4rl5LMYz8lwNL4OzZKQJyqtF0Q77rzfGg32JN9Hvl+YBh4NOCfMbBbTipe 7KbH1aSGNes+U99kscDB9BfOljGGIYuFEV6akLC5tUc025szF2tsGX93a/qidAaaFFeHT205XaB1f UN2x5sxrgfo454puWocoCw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Eduardo Ochs on Thu, 25 Jul 2024 06:44:27 -0300) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:147363 Archived-At: > From: Eduardo Ochs > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 06:44:27 -0300 > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 02:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 22:03:48 +0200 > > > From: Michael Heerdegen via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > > > > > > Agreed, this is at least misleading. Stefan, Eli? > > > > What is misleading? > > > > I admit that I don't have a clear understanding of the issue: I don't > > understand what Eduardo wants to do in the first place, nor which > > version of Emacs broke what he did or why. So maybe wait for Stefan > > to chime in. > > Hi Eli, > > lambda used to be: > > self-quoting in dynamic binding, > non-self-quoting in lexical binding. > > Now lambda is: > > non-self-quoting in dynamic binding, > non-self-quoting in lexical binding. > > So its docstring needs to be updated. What is "now"? which version of Emacs is that? And how is the current doc string misleading or unclear?