From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: carlosjosepita@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18155: 24.3.92; Honor toolBar resource *before* showing frame Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:27:14 -0300 Message-ID: <86mwbq4h4t.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406759312 9794 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2014 22:28:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:28:32 +0000 (UTC) To: 18155@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 31 00:28:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcMC-0001Ex-IB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:28:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcMC-0000BC-62 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLz-000091-BU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLq-0003ML-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45241) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLq-0003MG-7t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLp-0006Nz-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:28:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: carlosjosepita@gmail.com Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18155 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.140675926724523 (code B ref -1); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2014 22:27:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52184 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLa-0006NS-Gg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLY-0006NE-2W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLJ-0003Ai-H3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:38 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLJ-0003Ac-Dz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59282) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcLA-000081-CY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcL1-0002zr-6S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d]:63306) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XCcL1-0002yS-22 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:27:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hy10so2948883vcb.32 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=jZDKfRlQVb7kczp5ti9pXnwc7+Um+DLSY89w4cmTy6k=; b=fE09nEEuHiu8rkaREqwHTvc2So7V3fWxYzzn7L5aiCSnK/sR4+UU3PchWSsG93V827 0kGaVAWobIl5dSTUbqPvoexRLy+tFa4jPJdlJpp2h5gWuaj+69u5fPDIFNLn3sCoxv67 cjUXtQlG57ScuB8Awj0/ovuk0QAzBVJnO2sOg/BSYOm/Z21b6a40TbAG3NnyRO3m87PP +wdxdihcZBM9rL4zD6h4cZyg/bViqoubzTC5m2l1KefrdNcKfHzt7cuG36M2yEFdJNQJ f3FQWmNVJzcZJEgwHpyQRJB9gn5ythiyMhAR6dUkTAuKwBhEvx27U3X6HkHoiu1ci1TV Eaog== X-Received: by 10.220.251.134 with SMTP id ms6mr8658457vcb.10.1406759229949; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([190.48.101.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n7sm1951811ven.1.2014.07.30.15.27.07 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91987 Archived-At: The elisp reference states that: > Emacs creates the initial frame before it reads your init file. After > reading that file, Emacs checks initial-frame-alist, and applies the > parameter settings in the altered value to the already created initial > frame. > If these settings affect the frame geometry and appearance, you'll see > the frame appear with the wrong ones and then change to the specified > ones. If that bothers you, you can specify the same geometry and > appearance with X resources; those do take effect before the frame is > created. See X Resources. This is true except when the toolbar is visible. In this case, no matter the value of the toolBar resource, the frame is initially shown without a toolbar and then the geometry is modified to fit the toolbar. This produces unpleasant visual artifacts during emacs startup. I'm afraid that fixing this will require to add a resource to set the toolbar position, too. I don't know how viable this is. In case it's not desirable to implement this feature I think some remark has to be added to the aforementioned documentation excerpt. Otherwise this is indeed a bug, as the behavior contradicts what's documented. Cheers -- Carlos