From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: the dumb Emacs terminal Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:29:26 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86mvlq5adl.fsf@student.uu.se> References: <7184db3d-3990-4d23-8362-573c62056a4f@googlegroups.com> <86k2gwwd7a.fsf@student.uu.se> <86furkw8m5.fsf@student.uu.se> <86ziprajuh.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> <86mvlradjj.fsf@student.uu.se> <86inwfa7zm.fsf@student.uu.se> <86bn26a4rj.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> <8660sea141.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468128632 15904 80.91.229.3 (10 Jul 2016 05:30:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 05:30:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 07:30:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bM7K1-0002w8-Mq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:30:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bM7K0-0007Td-AP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 01:30:28 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: EoOtCC1fCYcttx6jjhWUlA.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iGU5PzV1TUIAOYvOthnDkhHjZwc= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:218450 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110759 Archived-At: John Mastro writes: > I like the simplicity and that I can work > in/with the *shell* buffer just like any > "normal" buffer. Yeah, no, I think with the line mode it is very much a normal buffer. I think that in all essence is it, rather than the line/char distinction. I put it (the switch to line mode) in the `term-mode-hook', and the hook executes all well, but I still have to change it manually - perhaps the hook is run at a time when it doesn't take, so the first (automatic) invocation for this reason doesn't work. > Many of the things I previously would have > done in a terminal emulator that wouldn't > have worked well in M-x shell I now do in > various Emacs modes anyway. (Mail, some > version control tasks, reading man > pages, etc.) Indeed, however I think the shell is the exception to the rule it is better to do everything in Emacs. The reason I want the shell (a terminal) in Emacs is that sometimes I want to use the output from a shell tool in Emacs, or the other way around, run a shell tool on some piece of data I have in an Emacs buffer, and tho I can make the transition Emacs to/from the shell with no loss, having it all in Emacs start-to-finish just simplifies this even more. -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 56 Blogomatic articles -