From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70725: 29.3; dired-do-touch completion Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 09:50:17 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86msp38lqm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <871q6kkn5o.fsf@librehacker.com> <87plu38pf6.fsf@posteo.net> <86fruzjudh.fsf@gnu.org> <87fruzwetu.fsf@posteo.net> <8634qwlrii.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87v83r8pm3.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40268"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: christopher@librehacker.com, Eli Zaretskii , 70725@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 06 09:09:43 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sTn-000ANF-3H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 09:09:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sTY-0008Cm-Nh; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:09:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sSk-00088H-IJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sSk-0004YR-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sT8-0005US-47 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 07:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70725 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 70725-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70725.171497930821092 (code B ref 70725); Mon, 06 May 2024 07:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70725) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2024 07:08:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36165 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sSZ-0005U8-Ha for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:46707) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s3sSI-0005TZ-6m for 70725@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86ED2FF80A; Mon, 6 May 2024 07:07:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87v83r8pm3.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Mon, 06 May 2024 05:40:36 +0000") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:284560 Archived-At: > What I see and is wrong IMO is: > > - DEFAULT is the timestamp of the current file at point and prompt says > that DEFAULT is "now". > > - Pressing RET should use DEFAULT, but IIUC what you say, it returns > current-time timestamp, is it correct? > If so this is another inconsistency, RET should always return DEFAULT with an > empty prompt. The prompt of dired-do-touch with the default value "now" is a special case. This exception is required to solve the time paradox. If the default value was a fixed value of some moment of time such as you proposed (format-time-string "%Y%m%d%H%M.%S" (current-time)) then after you press RET the timestamp of the file will be set to some moment of time in the past, because it takes time between you press 'T' (dired-do-touch) and then press 'RET' (exit-minibuffer). So the timestamp of the file will be wrong, not the time when you press 'RET'. For example, I often use the moment of pressing 'RET' to ensure that the time of pressing 'RET' is the time that the file timestamp will be set to.