From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74339: 30.0.92; CC Mode stomps C TS Mode Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: <86msi0iu1a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <868qtnfd2d.fsf@gnu.org> <86r07elwoh.fsf@gnu.org> <86h68al2qz.fsf@gnu.org> <8634jtk4gj.fsf@gnu.org> <86y11limbr.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25877"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, 74339@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 15 13:04:34 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv3x-0006Zd-LM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:04:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv3k-0007jf-Ad; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:04:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv3a-0007i2-G2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:04:15 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv3Z-0006dY-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:04:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:To:Subject; bh=Bjzp1Y/CmPk3OXV7SwJorvO0fvRB2nrptljotd4NyPA=; b=kwg6zFZbT3QgqxFzXKL/RvYEsRJrO9sqs9oFIbkGylqY0mvXBB3YlG1Shf7juf18hmWAzk/Dq/snlhu9QI24YydbUIFgXUGlDHPBar/zD9Ol4+l2/otyT35ZETMmlyweTM7tjhtR7Ct1yJZgqy3EBPFPntnaa8+9doC90u0kt8+h+35bdZtwKt5Thb/gFbjrKgCcqATvO9PAy5mhhcF+X5vPxxiZgmT9Pd7LWntnf3ss2TGlD/Pv+7KmQiwmPLbZhQipiF7JlZud0fYgoVQnwN5V83EpO9K4gCIggyrMbfKUTILwZ9KPxQrcIfrOGgcQSW3H2ySuB9ZQGIAkalloGQ==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv3R-0001FN-Ns for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:04:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 74339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74339.17316721954740 (code B ref 74339); Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 74339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2024 12:03:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48861 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv2h-0001EN-4b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:03:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59864) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv2e-0001EA-83 for 74339@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:03:13 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tBv2Y-0006Mf-Cv; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:03:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Bjzp1Y/CmPk3OXV7SwJorvO0fvRB2nrptljotd4NyPA=; b=DE1mYeyHfAdm WZbFzWxoarUqbjEawpDPYpto0LW+q1Qjn2b1QzrZHKvxPtEKfDJ9sLnsLMmnMxuOAkayz0elrLV1U 94nK2frdbqYxJYsIgpALrxlFi+xY5hwByNN17Kws+TPnUYSAZm8Ql8lZ7Vg0yJ32FKwZ0OesYyfci DDblsYxrl+6OXPmXypfJYg6PS3zHNzoq45sLM1Cdj7879lPy2cXk2u1y1rSluY0RFiCJ+w0WIRKxK +LFqMjt6hHf6MZu3s8uItVMD0wiDsLSBx1/JIoW6h/yEccsbxDoySkXSw7+RUtmZOHkzehw4zKGnt kDY+Zk1rOXSkZaGnKnt8sg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:06:13 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:295389 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: acm@muc.de, 74339@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:06:13 -0500 > > BTW, we should also install a patch like the one below. > Any objection? I don't think we should install this, no, definitely not on the emacs-30 branch. It was never my intention that Emacs 30 will affect the advice in those comments. We could (and probably should) consider some kind of changes for Emacs 31. But since we don't yet have a clear idea of how we want this to be resolved from the users' POV, it is too early to consider changes to this text even on master.