From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:16:53 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <86lhfg93gq.fsf@dod.no> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ioamz8if.fsf@petton.fr> <32013464-2300-46c6-ba46-4a3c36bfee5d@default> <87twu62nnt.fsf@mbork.pl> <21890.22217.610318.184683@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83vbellgb7.fsf@gnu.org> <86vbel7wxf.fsf@dod.no> <837fr0ly7a.fsf@gnu.org> <86pp4s996u.fsf@dod.no> <83381olveh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434658649 1519 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2015 20:17:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:17:29 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 18 22:17:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gFQ-0002Ol-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:17:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54771 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gFP-0007Xc-KV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42681) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gF4-0007UQ-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:16:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gEz-0004V9-FC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:16:54 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gEz-0004UE-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gEs-0001tZ-Ka for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:16:42 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.248.210.getinternet.no ([84.208.248.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:16:42 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.248.210.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:16:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.248.210.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TAQOBI28jK1GnYUknhiRDylKzRk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187294 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii : >> From: Steinar Bang >> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:13:13 +0200 >> I'm pretty sure all native users of "å" would never wish a search to hit >> "a" > You were talking about "aa" previously, not "a". Well, both actually. One as the equivalent (or actually: old orthography for the same sound), and one that looks similar but is an entirely different sound. I wasn't sure which one you meant. > I think hitting "aa" when searching for "å" is as reasonable in > certain cultures as hitting "SS" when searching for "ß" in some > others, or as hitting "fi" when searching for "fi" (and vice versa). > Users don't _always_ want that, but sometimes they might. It could be reasonable (if a bit unexpected...) for a Dane or a Norwegian, but not necessarily reasonable for a Swede. My personal preference would be to make "å" match "å" (and maybe "Å" for case insensitive search).