From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Merging native-comp and pgtk Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:32:30 +0000 Message-ID: <86lfbmk3bl.fsf@gmail.com> References: <07D5E64D-DAD0-45B3-B272-627A73D7CBAE@gmail.com> <83sg69o3av.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtwhctte.fsf@gnus.org> <459A0475-E3E7-4159-82DF-93809CCF1E24@gmail.com> <87eehng52n.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtwbye5b.fsf@gmail.com> <87czx7ycva.fsf@tcd.ie> <87eehmyalr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dneoewi.fsf@tcd.ie> <875z2yy6z7.fsf@gmail.com> <878s7twq2t.fsf@gmail.com> <84adc238-c424-bb6b-da28-c4232172da5b@gmx.at> <83wnvddtgh.fsf@gnu.org> <86k0rc2a44.fsf@gmail.com> <87sg5vtx6n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83pn0y7lr4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19823"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (windows-nt) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:nIQICAzFOU/vRHkANqgUE0a0lGU= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 18:34:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQii-00053A-LY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:34:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQih-0006M5-Od for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:34:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQgv-0005Ve-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:32:47 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:52830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQgr-0008P1-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:32:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQgm-0002bB-VV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:32:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265024 Archived-At: On Wed 17 Feb 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Phillip Lord >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 23:22:40 +0000 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Andy Moreton writes: >> >> > On mingw64 32bit configured with "--wide": >> > >> > - the build fails: bootstrap-emacs.exe crashes when compiling lisp). >> > gdb does not produce anything informative in the backtrace. >> > >> > - the "--wide" configure flag affects ABI, so should be included in the >> > native-comp ABI hash identifier in .eln filenames. >> >> While this doesn't stop anyone else from doing it, I have just removed >> support for 32bit builds from the windows packaging process: >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-01/msg00661.html > > Because it was unreasonable to expect you to keep supporting it when > MSYS2 folks dropped it. And since MinGW64 dropped support of old > Windows versions, which are the main audience for the 32-bit build, > such a MinGW64 build is no longer useful anyway. Agreed: when I wrote the above, I was unaware that the MSYS2 developers had dropped 32bit support. > But that doesn't mean we want to drop support for 32-bit build on > MS-Windows. As long as mingw.org's MinGW supports Windows 9X, we > should not deliberately break such builds. Does anyone test regularly on Win9x ? Inadvertant breakage seems likely otherwise. AndyM