From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Attitude (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:16:14 +0300 Message-ID: <86le2r6k4h.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26169"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 27 07:17:20 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sMhVX-0006b1-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:17:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMhUc-00017J-3T; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 01:16:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMhUZ-000171-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 01:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMhUW-0000Jx-A6; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 01:16:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=6GY1REqJxV/oWUz1dZ4jbRPKfpxLK9fEZHyZ66+8YUw=; b=n34Em1yYvePu xTjqN/D1tCaUbEHx8zMsFcHi3ombCvxmshjxITm8cHc1Cf4G8iIDYZJhvzDV5OYo1Hwkg1WsgGr14 LZpWJlYC05wKwCOV4rLlDmoaBN/aSmEpNmCodaMpMXRS1YtBIO+8plbRj8ECJGfciyiZsTRYeJf2v XeUo5sdCKw379tv4fg7P1I1CDd30hzxehTfldZF+LBrIW9QNb3hUAgXU3o2Aw+tM3Hd5F3Q8agTbM h78kPZwbJJaZQ9OLB1sxd6dsgG6IfYWibKDshVPOqOMiGrtAX89sudfBbl7Ud/2lQr+oJgKwT2K1q QeVTybOGvj60zcIXhSgAzA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:38:35 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320742 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:38:35 +0000 > Cc: Stefan Kangas , > Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > Hello, Stefan. (Not really a "hello", is it?) > Talking about minor proposals, I got the following message in > *Async-native-compile-log* in one of my development branches: > > /home/acm/cc-mode.hg/cc-fonts.el: Error Wrong type argument: listp, #[(form) (`(cdr (backquote-process ,form))) nil] > > , which clearly has to do with your "minor proposal" to introduce a new > type for interpreted functions. I really can't be bothered at the moment > to go through all the work of tracking this down, but would be grateful > nevertheless if you would fix it. > > By the way, did you get any approval for this change from the current > maintainers, or did you just go ahead and commit it anyway? I seem to > remember you sweeping aside and ignoring my "disproportionately intense > fire" on this matter, implying it would cause nobody extra work. Alan, please drop this immature attitude. It's unbecoming. I have no idea what change you are talking about (as you "cannot be bothered" to point it out, evidently), and I cannot try to reproduce it myself (since you didn't tell how) or examine the backtrace (since you haven't posted one), but in general, this is development, and mistakes whether silly or serious, do happen. When mistakes do happen, we don't castigate our fellow developers, certainly not those with Stefan's record, for any unintended consequences of their work. Instead, we respectfully describe the problems with all the relevant details and discuss how to fix the problems. IOW, this is a cooperative community effort of developing software, and I respectfully demand that each one of us behaves accordingly. Anyone who misbehaves on my watch will be kindly asked to stop, or else. I now expect you to apologize and to post the details of the problem (as a separate bug report).