From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#72433: 29.4; Inconsistent "Loading" message suppression for batch mode Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 09:04:55 +0300 Message-ID: <86le1euooo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877ccya008.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30303"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 72433@debbugs.gnu.org To: Derek Upham Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 03 08:06:07 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7u1-0007lw-WD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 08:06:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7tg-0007gw-VX; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:05:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7te-0007ge-Uc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:05:42 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7te-0004pl-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:05:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:To:Subject; bh=Ipm8cHnwG4nS+J85yLoTU/A6poueRPHVpi1lB+MT8Ts=; b=uArA6N/0YjT0lPGCiQRugcGFdU1KC9IfWOlIJIMrKqXHGuw+ZQ9MBnCWVFGtnSEjsX4JFQfbgiBdZxRiAX3FuIy6uhSkmGZPZ1hiqLD12nDlrCP0VBWZWCBp9SkRvXMFpehgsZyVC5A8buniDTN1UVNhOISL2JuInA0FOXjrcm76hTgdhe2T/P+4p/glRwDRNoAMCe7hA9p4kMafHPyL0z9/kPvij8pq96MGkCqXR4Q5B9/bdH8Vzk7C97CgAoRiz/RQbHunvk3nLdlk6dJiiWgC9N7VkzxrrbX7Ks2SeH8dYytfv92det8N4+EKqFAFR3d3RILBHJ/+z640nxbgCg==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7tx-00026s-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:06:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 06:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72433 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 72433-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72433.17226651258061 (code B ref 72433); Sat, 03 Aug 2024 06:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 72433) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2024 06:05:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7tM-00025x-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7tJ-00025c-S9; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:05:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sa7su-0003HY-AX; Sat, 03 Aug 2024 02:04:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Ipm8cHnwG4nS+J85yLoTU/A6poueRPHVpi1lB+MT8Ts=; b=CCkYnjD90FIu eeAUFiDYDa7Os1+vq4+Ye3Tr6evWqwYq5cxzUgu5uR4caMrR2ydxN2LksI2/lt1doEMh6WXBb9NKA slUNSf9nvl7Ui5GnoNfw2ReseRHNMSbgoaUUEI+eKbVR42tyNf4Rmj+cqrRU9CYFNUDXkUywWuLBP NpvhH4j1h/9kMuN+fH40mvD9WXagTfS/KK5MD9++ff6WVaHdwr6X1GsUPoAgcts24+3Y/YjgdTwhm eFFcElXTpcAgMjABWJAKfSnKqmb6P4u6ocNZ9A7RchqPPEdPF8kzh92lphbd5aybpz+sgonfbQYHV BucJA9a9gYWLgPG8V0rLXQ==; In-Reply-To: <877ccya008.fsf@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:289665 Archived-At: tags 72433 notabug wontfix thanks > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 18:05:59 -0700 > From: Derek Upham via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > > The second block's test skips the body if the "noninteractive" flag is > set. (The "-batch" command line argument sets that flag, in "main()".) > But the first block's test does not take "noninteractive" into account. > That means that batch mode produces loading "half-messages". > > Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/00debian.el (source)... > Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50autoconf.el (source)... > Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50bbdb3.el (source)... Yes, and this is done on purpose: in batch mode the second line is redundant because all the lines remain visible on the screen, whereas in the interactive case the user can only see the last message (in the echo area), and thus leaving the "Loading..." message there could be misinterpreted as if the load is still in progress. > We probably want consistent non-display in batch mode, which we can get > by adding a similar "!noninteractive" test to the first progress block. No, we don't want consistency in this case, at least not this kind of consistency. This is not a bug.