From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs, oldsters, newbiness Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:27:00 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86k5bfpq6j.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <68deb805-c16f-48ec-96a1-5dd8fd7e5e48@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <56aa1c42-303b-4150-8d96-9159487244e2@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <7343b66f-7262-466c-8975-9774dce22d88@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <7bddb878-9f4c-4140-827c-83cd29c96e5f@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <878wse8kdp.fsf_-_@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226068889 22942 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2008 14:41:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:41:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 15:42:29 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KySXS-0002ZX-Hp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:42:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36838 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KySWK-0004Km-El for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:41:08 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.arglkargh.de!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net VKTmmPvrB3d5ZUdpXo6Peh5enMtjXWOoEoLlZZSdSxzqjyysAKIJn5w+9SYiawRrVVzmo0XyyfHAZjq/yXyaSeVX81Ve9ED/HyjflML1U6vl3nyc4pHKR2BWcCC2MFX7 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@albasani.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:27:00 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: APvhYA2SSXV3DwRCSZGsFR/S8oxfTsDFxQqdIS3G/XY= X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Cancel-Lock: sha1:t16gT96pED2Dp7/hKt89xJTI6LM= sha1:nWgzC40u44adsVvYPl9LozaMe5I= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NNTP-Posting-Host: bisWVjYXfAmFuTyUVt4xQKa8uON/AJn06cKPmcOudz8= Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:164223 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59557 Archived-At: On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:22:47 +0100 Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: TN> harden the facility -- when is culture just overgrown moss? TN> does the stone monkey even remember five centuries lost? I can assure you that the stone monkey (in fact, *any* stone monkey) does not remember anything. TN> is wisdom the hand that clamps down, does not soften? Wisdom is your own mistakes giving you a reach-around, so yes. HTH Ted