* Org tiny changes?
@ 2012-04-29 3:24 François Pinard
2012-04-29 8:28 ` Bastien
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From: François Pinard @ 2012-04-29 3:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi, everybody.
I might not be following the mailing list closely enough… May I check
with you, just in case I should rather chase an error on my side?
* It now seems that UNDER\_LINE, while producing HTML, is now rendering
the backslash instead of removing it. The backslash was previously
required so "LINE" is not shown as a subscript for "UNDER". Today, if
I use UNDER_LINE, it gets rendered as is, without the need of a
backslash.
* Whenever a date is generated (through "C-c !" say) or adjusted, the
day of the week has a period appended. That is, where I was
previously getting "[2012-04-28 sam]", I now get "[2012-04-28 sam.]".
Are these changes on purpose? If yes, I'll mass edit my files so they
become consistent with the new behavior. If not, please advise me. ☺
François
P.S. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a fresh partition today, and observed
the changes after the fact (and after having re-installed Org from Git).
This is probably a mere coincidence, I would not be tempted to think the
upgrading of Ubuntu has a consequence on the Org changes I'm seeing.
Oh, by the way, Org now installs in /usr/local/emacs/site-lisp/org/,
while it used to go within /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/. That's
another change which I presume willful, and to which I quickly adjusted.
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* Re: Org tiny changes?
2012-04-29 3:24 Org tiny changes? François Pinard
@ 2012-04-29 8:28 ` Bastien
2012-04-30 20:53 ` François Pinard
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From: Bastien @ 2012-04-29 8:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: François Pinard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi François,
François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> * It now seems that UNDER\_LINE, while producing HTML, is now rendering
> the backslash instead of removing it. The backslash was previously
> required so "LINE" is not shown as a subscript for "UNDER". Today, if
> I use UNDER_LINE, it gets rendered as is, without the need of a
> backslash.
Can you give us a hint on what versions you're comparing here?
> * Whenever a date is generated (through "C-c !" say) or adjusted, the
> day of the week has a period appended. That is, where I was
> previously getting "[2012-04-28 sam]", I now get "[2012-04-28 sam.]".
IIRC, this is a change in calendar. But you don't need to update your
old timestamps, Org understands them.
> P.S. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a fresh partition today, and observed
> the changes after the fact (and after having re-installed Org from Git).
> This is probably a mere coincidence, I would not be tempted to think the
> upgrading of Ubuntu has a consequence on the Org changes I'm seeing.
Please give us raw version numbers.
Thanks!
--
Bastien
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* Re: Org tiny changes?
2012-04-29 8:28 ` Bastien
@ 2012-04-30 20:53 ` François Pinard
2012-05-01 11:34 ` Bastien
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From: François Pinard @ 2012-04-30 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
> Hi François,
>> It now seems that UNDER\_LINE, while producing HTML, is now rendering
>> the backslash instead of removing it. [...] I would not be tempted
>> to think the upgrading of Ubuntu has a consequence on the Org changes
>> I'm seeing.
> Can you give us a hint on what versions you're comparing here? [...]
> Please give us raw version numbers.
Nicely, org-mode/.git/logs/HEAD also contains a trace of all pull
operations and reached commits. Well, the dates are not in the clear,
which is a minor inconvenience. My real problem is that I do not having
good memory of times, so even seeing the dates, it is uneasy for me to
be really assertive about when, and so for which commit, everything
worked as I expect. I could bisect if the matter becomes important.
I came to suspect a mix of Org Emacs Lisp files from the Ubuntu bundled
Emacs, prefix=/usr, and those coming from Git, prefix=/usr/local/.
Right or wrong, I came to suspect this because the installation of Org
from Git goes to a different place (at least for me) now that the
Makefile has been reshuffled.
Indeed, LTTng 2.0 quickly reveals that there is a problem somewhere,
which i still have to identify. The existence of this tool is worth
sharing: now provided within Ubuntu 12.04 through package lttng-tools,
and is immensely more powerful than strace, and has much less overhead
too. You might have to add "tracing" to yourself in /etc/group first.
If curious, visit https://bugs.lttng.org/projects/lttng-tools/wiki .
In a word, I'm more likely to think that the problem really happened
after I upgraded Ubuntu, because its Emacs contains Org already, and
because I install Org from Git within /usr/local instead.
Let me to understand more closely how the mix is happening here. If I
find nothing, I'll likely be back, and you'll read me moaning again :-).
>> * Whenever a date is generated (through "C-c !" say) or adjusted, the
>> day of the week has a period appended. That is, where I was
>> previously getting "[2012-04-28 sam]", I now get "[2012-04-28 sam.]".
> IIRC, this is a change in calendar. But you don't need to update your
> old timestamps, Org understands them.
Even if it does, the HTML rendering has a non-uniform presentation. I
would rather adjust all timestamps. A bit of work, but not that much!
I'll wait a bit more before doing it, just to get a better feeling that
the change is going to stay (and not a consequence of the confusion
explained above).
Thanks for your patience with me!
François
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* Re: Org tiny changes?
2012-04-30 20:53 ` François Pinard
@ 2012-05-01 11:34 ` Bastien
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From: Bastien @ 2012-05-01 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: François Pinard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi François,
François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> I came to suspect a mix of Org Emacs Lisp files from the Ubuntu bundled
> Emacs, prefix=/usr, and those coming from Git, prefix=/usr/local/.
> Right or wrong, I came to suspect this because the installation of Org
> from Git goes to a different place (at least for me) now that the
> Makefile has been reshuffled.
The new Makefile install Org at the same place than the old one,
so probably the change in the location of Emacs comes from Ubuntu.
> Thanks for your patience with me!
You're welcome :)
--
Bastien
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