From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Any way to control which articles Gnus summary shows by default? Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:48:26 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86k1tnhvt1.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86lge3ric2.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9izi177.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1522853321 6808 195.159.176.226 (4 Apr 2018 14:48:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 14:48:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 04 16:48:37 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f3jiH-0001h1-PV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:48:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f3jkN-0003Qi-7c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 10:50:47 -0400 X-Received: by 10.28.113.65 with SMTP id m62mr852975wmc.24.1522853307663; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!69no4265695wms.0!news-out.google.com!k195ni22715wmd.0!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: Mq3CdlVpWThKpW6fSn+6ow.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:hojQ0zleDsfSi4XAweSZBjA4mus= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:222222 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116343 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen wrote: > No, I didn't try, I don't want to. I'm quite > sure doing it in a way that it "works" > somehow is easy. Doing it right so that > maintainers can be sure it does the right > thing under any circumstances is the > hard part. I don't think it'd be such a big difference, and they could use the code as a starting point and change the details if need be. > The Gnus sources are complicated, so it's > better you know what you are doing. Gnus source is very difficult to read because the functions are so long. I hear this is because Elisp is slow, and Gnus is slow, so making it (the source) more modular would slow it down even further with lots of calls back and forth. Even so, this should all amount to, if this feature is solved in a short way, this short function or piece of code would just be incorporated into a longer function that already is, and the developers should know already where to put it. Gnus is complicated as a whole but boil it down it is just the same Elisp all day every day that does the job and I cannot see why it should be anything else. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573