From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ESC vs Meta for shifted keys Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 02:50:11 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86k1t970os.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86tvsiaoe3.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523753608 1456 195.159.176.226 (15 Apr 2018 00:53:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:53:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 15 02:53:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7Vv2-0000GC-3S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 02:53:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51907 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f7Vx6-0000XK-SG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:55:32 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ey7daRps1n1jd+mMaOEjpw.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:3Awc19z2bhC9915jqeDmV7ZJskM= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:222396 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116514 Archived-At: Tim Johnson wrote: > I have some ergonomic issues with hands and > fingers. Often, using ESC cuts down > on stretching. You have some different keyboard than mine then. My Meta key, which is the Alt key according to the keyboard manufacturer, involves some 2 cm horizontal movement with the thumb, from right to left (perhaps I should estimate it to one "inch" instead :)) To hit the Esc key OTOH involves a huge leap of hand over several keys, and this movement also dislocates the hand from typing "asdf" position. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573