From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Suggestions for 1L computer to run Emacs 2019 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:26:15 +0100 Message-ID: <86k1i7z8yg.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <86d0o01zan.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="202214"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 10 21:30:47 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gsvkQ-000qO4-NR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:30:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35231 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsvkP-0001t4-D7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:30:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsvjs-0001sP-QZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:30:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsvjs-0004th-1x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:30:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=35526 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsvjr-0004rQ-Pj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 15:30:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gsvjl-000pa1-U9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:30:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y9TVQe3CLtf/IzKbKgz0iDEaxyo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119326 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > That's not the kind of control I was talking > about. The problem I see with Apple's control > over their devices is that they control the > devices they sell even *after* selling them > (e.g. by controlling which software gets to > run on it). Indeed, one has to give at least that amount of freedom to them, that they can manufacture any piece of hardware they want :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573