From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 20:40:07 +0200 Message-ID: <86k1dxs0hk.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <86y32sc6mq.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="21088"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 07 21:36:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZKf4-0005CK-Ho for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:36:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51830 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZKf2-0001hS-Md for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 15:36:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZJnF-0004lu-SN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 14:40:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZJnB-0002Pr-P7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 14:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=44180 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZJn3-0001G1-MS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 14:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZJmf-0009yj-AM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jun 2019 20:40:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:+pvbm0AkjlRz7p7wLl/B51uMPuI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120812 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard wrote: > GNU Emacs has no need to be competitive IMO. > As I am okay living right into emacs buffers, > I do not need to compare it with competitors. Me neither. > I, for years, constantly was tweaking my > .emacs for hours and hours. As to my > surprise, I did not get the job done ;) THat > was quite fun but, in the end, that was > pretty conter-productive. Same for me, only I'm not sure if I really had done anything better had I not done it. Maybe I'd have done 20 or so "would have been the next Quake" only none were ever finished. The stuff I did with Emacs at least I use every day, it was/is fun to do, and I take happiness and pride from that, and productivity as well, when I do real projects - those have become fewer and farther in-between tho, but I don't blame Elisp for this. > I doubt powerusers have tons of them > installed and worst, I even doubt their > .emacs are huge. [...] It depends what the definition of poweruser is. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal