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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297665 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:22:53 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: > > Lars> I think users basically fall into two camps: The ones that want= to have > Lars> tree-sitter in all modes, and ones that want to enable it in sp= ecific > Lars> modes (and ones that don't want it at all). (Note Computer > Lars> Science-mandated off-by-one error.) > > off-by-two: there=CA=BCs also the "I want syntax highlighting and > indentation to work out of the box, don=CA=BCt bother me with > implementation details" camp, which kind of implies that we should > turn on tree-sitter by default if it=CA=BCs available. Depends on who "we" is here; the mode author may be in the best position to know, or the "correct" choice may also depend on user preference. Which is why ada-mode 8.0 supports user choice of eglot or wisi for each feature; the choice depends on exactly what the user is doing with ada-mode, and how hard they want to work to install it. --=20 -- Stephe