From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#69983: Use category for display-buffer-alist Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:16:30 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86jzkusidd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <86h6gv7e0z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86sezyjpsn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86a5m3jboy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86v84rvwpa.fsf@gnu.org> <867ch7gfa4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86bk6iwftq.fsf@gnu.org> <86il0pd8da.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <864jc9wk5r.fsf@gnu.org> <861q7dgla3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86il0pulum.fsf@gnu.org> <86cyqwjtpr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86y19ktkj2.fsf@gnu.org> <86h6g7m773.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86sezrrrgh.fsf@gnu.org> <86il0m7ceo.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86a5lysah3.fsf@gnu.org> <86o7ad2j84.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86mspxnkyt.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk6c5ke3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <864jbyeo9y.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30336"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 69983@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 18 19:36:17 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVgG-0007mA-Vb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 19:36:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVfr-0002xA-Tx; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:35:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVfq-0002wd-5T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVfp-00054o-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVg3-00063F-4w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:36:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:36:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 69983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B69983.171346171722903 (code B ref 69983); Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:36:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 69983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2024 17:35:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVfI-0005xA-Dv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:35:17 -0400 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::229]:49311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxVf9-0005ui-7u for 69983@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F203FF806; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:34:46 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <864jbyeo9y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:30:49 +0300") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283597 Archived-At: >> >> > If we want to enable user control of displaying warnings, we will have >> >> > to add an option for that, because currently that cannot be >> >> > controlled. display-buffer-alist is inappropriate for such control, >> >> > since in some cases warnings are not displayed in pop-up windows. >> >> >> >> Could you show an example when warnings are not displayed in pop-up windows. >> > >> > The two calls to 'message' there. >> >> These calls are irrelevant. It makes no sense to add an option >> to display text "at the bottom of 'message'". > > Of course. But what if some user would like to display the warnings > in the echo-area? Don't we want to allow such customization? If we > do, then display-buffer machinery is not relevant, exactly as it is > not relevant for those two calls. This proves that a new option is not needed. QED. >> >> > Thanks, but what do you mean by "at the bottom"? Can you describe >> >> > that place more precisely? >> >> >> >> Here is an example: >> > >> > I understand what this means in the simple cases, but not necessarily >> > what happens in more complex cases. >> >> This case is not simple. It demonstrates the problem >> in horizontally split windows. >> >> > This is why I asked for a detailed definition of "at bottom". >> >> The detailed definition is in the documentation of >> 'display-buffer-at-bottom'. > > I agree that "display at bottom" is a useful feature, but why should > we decide that users could have no control of that, either? E.g., > another reasonable MO is to split the selected window vertically and > show the warning in the lower window. This is easy to customize with a category in display-buffer-alist. > So I think display-warning should have a variable to customize its > display, and limiting that only to what display-buffer can produce > doesn't support all the optional behaviors people could reasonably > want. Moreover, display-buffer is IMO overly-complex for this simple > job; a simple variable with several distinct values would do. Adding dozens of new variables that replace display-buffer-alist makes no sense.