From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default lexical-binding to t Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:19:18 +0200 Message-ID: <86jzdjuofd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wmhjjq1r.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27236"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 04 14:19:57 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t7wzt-0006tA-N1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 14:19:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7wzS-0007nW-MO; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 08:19:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7wzQ-0007lC-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 08:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7wzQ-0008Aj-45; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 08:19:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=OKAPv9NmoLOcJXiBSyj7apT0GQoIY5n6mKDgH2fc4K0=; b=VMq2iLSpkvOK 9jRHyER1O5WK+OMb1pkCg98gpqpBjzGPizvadndTwW8N9cOz27DwPTXUSblbuUWYUD/IFYodLzQXT xAOY6LQpBPJMGRTv3TVmgJVIzRaGDUC/E9ttpVegQKI8dnUl/c8aajTqM2phlpsjS+23Hn+fp4Reg OL8uwMvxQaSab6fuTZKHFG2e5J48Gb8JJT1REcrqMEEtMz6GFWSmvUzcJ5Q2Ez2hS5n+jRDJGQEz6 /FSOJ6hxtS+JYUDqPrzFfQ5O80nN29CcASnZ2x3uX2UYkCdXrjESJLNVNs9qIb+Esgfhw12vW3Par RIZEEtGNh2KPaUUIaae7HA==; In-Reply-To: <87wmhjjq1r.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 04 Nov 2024 17:39:44 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325099 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 17:39:44 +0800 > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > It seems that people are forming ideas of how frequent dynamic binding > > files are by looking at code in active development. Of course it is > > rare there. But user have a lot of old Lisp files that they haven't > > used for a while. Some of them, someone will try to use someday. > > It is far too early even to arrive at this conclusion. I have said it > before and I'll say it again. Even actively developed packages on the > EmacsWiki are still to be amended with lexical binding directives. > > https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/info%2b.el > (Last updated Mon Jan 29 15:53:30 2024 (-0800)) How do you propose to encourage people to convert sooner rather than later? If we just wait for that to happen spontaneously, we will wait forever.