From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: two Info entries from emacs20, 21 Date: 16 Jun 2002 10:41:12 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <86it4k3pyv.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Kindly_Remove_This_jidanni@ms46.hinet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024198751 8620 127.0.0.1 (16 Jun 2002 03:39:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 03:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17JQsg-0002Ev-00 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 05:39:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17JQsf-0001wF-00; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net ([199.171.54.98]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17JQqN-0001m4-00 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:36:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de by chi6sosrv13.alter.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: mail.fu-berlin.de [160.45.11.165]) id QQmtle08689 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 03:36:48 GMT Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 05:36:45 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 05:36:44 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-47-218.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 52 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-47-218.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.47.218) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1024198603 7362934 61.227.47.218 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: 127.0.0.1!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2074 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2074 This message consists of a debian problem and an emacs problem. First the emacs problem. lets say one has * Emacs: (emacs-20/emacs). The extensible self-documenting text editor. * Emacs: (emacs-21/emacs). The extensible self-documenting text editor. deep in the info dir. and say we hit C-h i m em tab No amout of TAB etc. will reveal that there are actually 2 entries of the same name. Even in the completions list we just see one cheery entry. Only if we go out of our way to inspect deep in the info dir page several screens below do we find that indeed there is a choice to be made and we dont want the default. OK, now for the debian problem as seen from one who has installed emacs21 but not been asked to expunge emacs20. He says: Excuse me, I installed Emacs21 but I end up in the emacs 20 manual even though there is a emacs 21 manual C-h i C-x d C-g m e m C-x d at the first C-x d I see that I am in the 21 dir. at the 2nd I am in the 20 dir. Oh great, I see the dir has * Emacs: (emacs-20/emacs). The extensible self-documenting text editor. * Emacs: (emacs-21/emacs). The extensible self-documenting text editor. I.e. no more just hitting "m em TAB" from way at the top. Oh. user error. hmmm, maybe I should just remove all the emacs20 packages and this will self heal. I installed emacs21 but didn't disinstall emacs20 as I don't think i was reminded to as they supposedly don't interfere... Geez, the whole info dir is loaded with 20 vs. 21 landmines, I had better rid emacs20 today... Anyways, the users old habit of hitting m em from the top won't do these days... must keep eyes in road... OK, I did "aptitude remove emacs20", that fixed it. by the way, gnus installed is 5.8.8 but the manual is for 5.9.0 Hmm, after I deleted emacs20, gnus jumped to 5.9.0: moral of story, the two packages are interfering. I's say it's worth a apt-get conflict registration. P.S. return address munged temporarily due to fear of spam to my last remaining unburied POP mailbox. reply to the groups and i'll see it there. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780