From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:53:03 +0100 Message-ID: <86ird61msg.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <87slcf8qxr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20070309135920.GA3560@kobe.laptop> <87hcsuwk6w.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1173714816 675 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2007 15:53:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 12 16:53:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HQmpx-0001Gm-Av for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:53:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQmqc-0001wO-RO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:54:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HQmqP-0001w8-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HQmqN-0001vu-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQmqN-0001vr-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:53:51 -0500 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HQmpg-0004fs-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (pd95b0fdb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.91.15.219]) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17029 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:52:57 +0100 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 24812 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 15:53:04 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Mar 2007 15:53:04 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 06F47DAEDF; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:53:03 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon\, 12 Mar 2007 16\:46\:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:67798 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On 3/12/07, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I don't see why this should delay the next pretest. > > It seems a bit silly to release a pretest just to change something > non-trivial immediately afterwards. The patch I'm proposing is > trivial, but IIUC what Richard is saying, perhaps greater changes will > be needed. There's no harm in waiting a day or three, is it? For every pretest, I hope it will be the last. My next important conference with Emacs tutorials is at the end of April. A release will make persuading people to use Emacs 22 much easier. So I agree that it seems pointless to make a prerelease when fundamental things are scheduled for change or fixes. -- David Kastrup