From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Evans Winner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TODO Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:23:11 -0700 Message-ID: <86ir08k6n4.fsf@timbral.net> References: <200802280200.m1S20CN2006536@localhost.localdomain> <87hcfsq0hd.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204241415 6764 80.91.229.12 (28 Feb 2008 23:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:30:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 29 00:30:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JUsD3-0004wG-7q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:30:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JUsCW-0000j0-IT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JUsCS-0000gg-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JUsCQ-0000ev-Vy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JUsCQ-0000ei-Oj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JUsCQ-0000wr-CV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JUsCG-0001sm-2P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:29:52 +0000 Original-Received: from 67.42.142.120 ([67.42.142.120]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:29:52 +0000 Original-Received: from thorne by 67.42.142.120 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:29:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.42.142.120 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cy5r6zPhy4iha2hqWlviUmFgv80= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90795 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: I don't see the use case where starting Emacs without a frame is preferrable over starting it on demand. Is it that Emacs shall run as background server process? I use Emacs sort-of like this. I leave one instance running (usually an X version) on my desktop machine at home. It has a lot of state and loads a lot of libraries at start-up. I connect to it with emacsclient from other virtual consoles, from my laptop at home or at coffee shops, from work, from school, from friends' houses. When I connect, it takes much less than a second to be back where I was with whatever I was working on. But sometimes I actually work on my desktop machine, where if X crashes, or I accidentally blow something up, I lose that state. I may be missing some normal mode of use that would solve that problem, but it seems like it would be pretty elegant to have Emacs as a daemon that starts on boot-up (ideally--or login) and then I could otherwise forget about it, and connect on demand.