From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 06:09:13 +0200 Message-ID: <86imu0h4t2.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <835ztdgr10.fsf@gnu.org> <20190221170259478078146@bob.proulx.com> <20190523172148538275561@bob.proulx.com> <86ef4oivmo.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190523175139068895086@bob.proulx.com> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="250331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 24 06:09:50 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hU1Wg-0012xb-6b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 06:09:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47558 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hU1Wf-0006N3-49 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:09:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hU1WP-0006Md-20 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:09:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hU1WM-00018l-Io for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:09:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=33818 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hU1WL-00015W-FZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 00:09:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hU1WH-0012Xw-FZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 06:09:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:B1XXMxeVEAoQKkk1PnlpP7CRJus= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120604 Archived-At: Bob Proulx wrote: >> "The sender" - you mean me, well, my e-mail >> service provider, anyway? So Zoho is >> incorrect blaming Gmail? > > Zoho definitely should not be blaming Gmail. > Zoho has instructed Gmail to reject any mail > from zoho.com that is being relayed through > mailing lists. Or anywhere else either. > > $ dig _dmarc.zoho.eu txt +short > "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; fo=0; > rua=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu; > ruf=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu" > > Previously Gmail, Yahoo, others did not > enforce this instruction. They now > do. [...] I have sent a message to Zoho with the following text. Let's see what they say. Zoho Cares wrote: > To resolve this, you may contact the > recipient through alternative means to > mark your email as NOT SPAM and also > raise a request to Gmail using the below > link [...] This issue has been figured out at help-gnu-emacs/gmane.emacs.help in a thread that (re)started with this message. [1] Later on in the thread, the explanation was provided: Zoho definitely should not be blaming Gmail. Zoho has instructed Gmail to reject any mail from zoho.com that is being relayed through mailing lists. Or anywhere else either. $ dig _dmarc.zoho.eu txt +short "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; fo=0; rua=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu; ruf=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu" Previously Gmail, Yahoo, others did not enforce this instruction. They now do. [...] [2] [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-05/msg00473.html [2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-05/msg00481.html NB the hidden addresses should be as above, i.e. dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal