From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#69983: Use category for display-buffer-alist Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:13:53 +0300 Message-ID: <86il0pulum.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86h6gv7e0z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <3e7b8e64-0a5f-4888-a443-9c69a5fffd98@gmx.at> <86wmpdu0fa.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86h6gf69jd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86sezyjpsn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86a5m3jboy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86v84rvwpa.fsf@gnu.org> <867ch7gfa4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86bk6iwftq.fsf@gnu.org> <86il0pd8da.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <864jc9wk5r.fsf@gnu.org> <861q7dgla3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38908"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 69983@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 10 20:15:02 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rucTO-0009vf-SI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:15:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucTJ-0001z8-T1; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:14:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucTG-0001yP-Bt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucTF-0006Rf-H7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rucTO-0003VZ-87 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 69983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B69983.171277286613173 (code B ref 69983); Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 69983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2024 18:14:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rucSo-0003QO-7V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43390) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rucSk-0003Ok-NJ for 69983@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:14:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rucSO-0006NX-BT; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:14:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3MSCouDGMWk4rOAs/HP3yl/DMY5kyWzUd/hg6VmRm1E=; b=TLrGjkc7aaIp +7prLDw/5VufZH93LhV3ALwC9Oi31ALyhbLLCaquVbzem2qVm+n73r9LvARxzRGK2OLTlep2ID43C SSMqpvQP4okRmuSb7FqTbWJTYnYa9BN4mKnnC6x0Q11t4qezsfL3HThrwZ70/mEQIiRKsOB9+AHm2 5WOdPQk9OdXVuO4OU4wkMAtD02bYL+jsA5ndCDZHvmE564STagJEu24D5SJsg5wkMsCpA/C5ySSj1 kdCGTl9Dk2h7aZfu+0AqdCE4h8bHbPQ/QJRr3Vm/r19fHbjlocO5+AULkyiGh0CO6A6kHvsIw+5BQ ACQrL8upVMsKsZtWy2RffQ==; In-Reply-To: <861q7dgla3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:49:50 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283062 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 69983@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:49:50 +0300 > > > More importantly, if we want to let programs and users control where > > the warnings are displayed, I'd rather we introduced a new, > > warning.el-specific option. Up front, there's no reason for anyone to > > assume that display-buffer-alist will have _any_ effect on > > display-warning, because we don't document that display-warning uses > > display-buffer. So we could one day decide to implement the display > > of the warnings in an entirely different fashion, and then no > > customizations of display-buffer-alist will be able to affect the > > display. In fact, in some situations we already display the warning > > other than via display-buffer. > > These are just excuses to not make life easier for users of > horizontally split windows. I don't see how a warning-specific option could be an "excuse". It can solve the problem you attempt to solve as well as what you propose. And if you think that referring to my views as "excuses" somehow makes your opinions more convincing, you are wrong. > > In any case, if you are suggesting to change the "random" place where > > warnings are displayed, we should first discuss that, because your > > assertion that no one will dislike the change sounds very much like > > famous last words to me, so to speak ;-) > > Why discriminate users by their orientation? If users prefer > nontraditional horizontal orientation why not help them > in situations of horizontally split windows? I don't see how the discussion I suggested could be viewed as "discrimination". I feel that there's some fundamental misunderstanding here.